Discuss Studio 2|4, 2|6, 6|8, 18|10, and 18|24 USB 2.0 Interfaces Here
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I don't keep up with everything so please lend me a hand and let me know what's what with the new interfaces.

Are the following statements true?

1) USB-C 3.1 is NOT the same as Thunderbolt
2) Although the USB-C 3.1 is faster than previous USB, it is not as fast as Thunderbolt
3) Consequently, Thunderbolt should provide less latency than USB-C 3.1
4) The new Presonus USB-C 3.1 interfaces are backward compatible with USB 3 or 2 and can be used with older PCs but will not provide the speed enhancement unless the PC either has 3.1 native to the motherboard or an add-in card on a desktop
5) Thunderbolt on a PC only works if it is native to the motherboard - add-in cards don't work

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by Skip Jones on Fri Jan 25, 2019 3:22 pm
1. Physically port compatable but not TB.
2. True
3. True
4. True
5 True, a lot of folks don't get this
6. Wait, there was no six

You obviously done your homework

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by shanabit on Fri Jan 25, 2019 4:51 pm
dgkenney wrote4) The new Presonus USB-C 3.1 interfaces are backward compatible with USB 3 or 2 and can be used with older PCs but will not provide the speed enhancement unless the PC either has 3.1 native to the motherboard or an add-in card on a desktop


4. In regards to this, according to Dom at the NAMM show these interfaces are using USB 2.0 transmission, only diff is they are using the USC -C connection port.

I was hoping they were using the USB 3.1 Gen 2 transmission but nope, its the same old USB 2.0 in last years model with a diff USB-C port :thumbdown:

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by dgkenney on Fri Jan 25, 2019 7:58 pm
shanabit wrote
dgkenney wrote4) The new Presonus USB-C 3.1 interfaces are backward compatible with USB 3 or 2 and can be used with older PCs but will not provide the speed enhancement unless the PC either has 3.1 native to the motherboard or an add-in card on a desktop


4. In regards to this, according to Dom at the NAMM show these interfaces are using USB 2.0 transmission, only diff is they are using the USC -C connection port.

I was hoping they were using the USB 3.1 Gen 2 transmission but nope, its the same old USB 2.0 in last years model with a diff USB-C port :thumbdown:



Aww! Disappointing

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by darrenporter1 on Sat Jan 26, 2019 12:01 am
here is a great writeup on usb and thunderbolt as it applies to us...
https://www.sweetwater.com/insync/what- ... musicians/


The answers to some of your questions are more involved than just simple "true or false."

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by Skip Jones on Sat Jan 26, 2019 12:05 am
Thanks for sharing this link. There is a lot of confusion out there. They PHYSICALLY share the same port but two different animals. This article explains it pretty well.

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by darrenporter1 on Sat Jan 26, 2019 12:35 am
Yeah and if it's true these interfaces are not true USB 3.1 then that is a letdown. I was actually looking at them pretty seriously.

But honestly, USB 2.0 is plenty fast enough for probably 99% of audio users out there.

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by AndySweet on Sun Jan 27, 2019 12:07 pm
RME Babyface use USB 2 so it's possible they have improved drivers to equal the RTL of those units maybe I'm asking too much but I would jump on one if that was the case.
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by robertfrench3 on Mon Jan 28, 2019 3:49 pm
If you compare the technical specs of the new boxes to the old, they seem to be exactly the same. Not surprised about USB 2.0, as that is how it works on the silver 2|4 w/ USBC that was already out. This looks to be just a connector change and cosmetic update.
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by darrenporter1 on Mon Jan 28, 2019 4:29 pm
I was wondering if that wasn't the case... what's the point of going USB-C if it's not also going to USB 3.1?

If that's true then the price-drops on the silvers you can get now would be a great deal.

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by shanabit on Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:25 am
robertfrench3 wroteIf you compare the technical specs of the new boxes to the old, they seem to be exactly the same. Not surprised about USB 2.0, as that is how it works on the silver 2|4 w/ USBC that was already out. This looks to be just a connector change and cosmetic update.


New black face and a USB-C port, that is all :shock:

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by AndySweet on Sat Feb 02, 2019 1:43 am
shanabit wrote
robertfrench3 wroteIf you compare the technical specs of the new boxes to the old, they seem to be exactly the same. Not surprised about USB 2.0, as that is how it works on the silver 2|4 w/ USBC that was already out. This looks to be just a connector change and cosmetic update.


New black face and a USB-C port, that is all :shock:


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