AudioBox 1818VSL, 44VSL and 22VSL
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Hello, I'm amazed how what felt like a simple task has turned into something I am unable to solve or get my head around. I've been using Presonus audio interfaces for 10 years so I'm surprised I can't work this out. I really need some help here.

I have a Presonus 44VSL with the latest drivers, I'm using a studio one at a friends studio. All we want to do is seemingly simple ... Plug an electric guitar in and software monitor it (for example using Guitar Rig) and at the same time I would like to plug in a microphone and direct monitor it.

The problem seems to be, those two objectives are in direct conflict with one another, Using the MIXER KNOB on the front of the device yields two results. 1. Turning it to "VSL" means I perfectly hear my wet Guitar Rig sound, but as a consequence I now hear vocals with latency. 2. I turn the knob to "Inputs" which gives me perfect direct monitoring of the vocals, but as a consequence I now hear dry unaffected guitar. If I put the knob in the middle, I simply get great direct monitoring of the vocals but with a 50% dry/wet in put from the guitar (no good).

I suspect this has become more problematic since Presonus removed the VSL mixer software as this obviously gave a bit more flexibility and options. There are two great mysteries of man kind. 1. The pyramids and 2. Why Presonus removed all the features they sold their product based on. Anyway, that's another topic entirely.

Essentially, using the latest driver (I'm aware I could use the old one). How can I get around this problem? Is it possible to mute direct monitoring for a particular input? I.e mute the guitar's direct monitoring and leave the vocals on? That would solve the problem. How else can I achieve what I want to?

Thank you to the hero in advance who helps me solve this

Thank you

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by jpettit on Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:40 pm
Please put your specs in your signature. See mine for a link.
Are you using Studio One 3.5 or 4?
Have you ever tried Green Z Low latency monitoring within S1?

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by cristofe on Mon Aug 13, 2018 11:09 pm
2. Why Presonus removed all the features they sold their product based on. Anyway, that's another topic entirely.


Presonus had no choice. In their quest to dumb down Windows and Mac OS so they played nice across phones, tablets and computers, Microsoft & Apple made fundamental changes to their operating systems that caused the VSL features to no longer work. Presonus did NOT remove these
features. They work just fine with earlier drivers on older computers. I built a system recently
specifically to run VSL for live mixing. Hardware cannot be infinitely updated to work with the latest
pc's and OS's.

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by KingofEndgame on Wed Aug 15, 2018 1:15 am
cristofe wrote
2. Why Presonus removed all the features they sold their product based on. Anyway, that's another topic entirely.


Presonus had no choice. In their quest to dumb down Windows and Mac OS so they played nice across phones, tablets and computers, Microsoft & Apple made fundamental changes to their operating systems that caused the VSL features to no longer work. Presonus did NOT remove these
features. They work just fine with earlier drivers on older computers. I built a system recently
specifically to run VSL for live mixing. Hardware cannot be infinitely updated to work with the latest
pc's and OS's.



That's actually not the case, Microsoft Windows didn't make any changes at the time to cause Presonus to remove the features for PC users. It was actually a change on Mac OS, it didn't relate to nor effect the PC, to peoples amazement they decided to remove the features for PC users anyway. There's plenty of forum posts and info about it in their discontinuation post. It also isn't the hardware that needed to be infinitely updated, just the software.

They do work fine with older drivers yes on older computers absolutely. Thank you for responding.

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by KingofEndgame on Wed Aug 15, 2018 1:17 am
jpettit wrotePlease put your specs in your signature. See mine for a link.
Are you using Studio One 3.5 or 4?
Have you ever tried Green Z Low latency monitoring within S1?


I have added the specs now :), thank you for the reminder. I actually haven't ever tried that because it's some old version of Studio One that was before the Green Z monitoring was available :).

I think I'll just go back to using the old drivers.

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by KingofEndgame on Wed Aug 15, 2018 1:21 am
I think I'm just going to use the old drivers. As someone else said on the forum, the new drivers essentially turn the 44VSL into a boat anchor :).

Thanks guys.

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by cristofe on Thu Aug 16, 2018 1:58 pm
the new drivers essentially turn the 44VSL into a boat anchor


That's actually not the case. They may not contain VSL but they work just fine here.
I have them installed on several machines including a horribly underpowered HP Mini with 1.6Ghz Atom CPU and 2GB of RAM. No issues at all. Sorry, they're not working for you.

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