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I've been struggling with the rules regarding slurs for a long time. I'd like to make a rule that sets the last note under a slur to 90% duration, with all the others at 100%. Can anyone write a ruleset that does this? I've tried every combination with the slurs conditional rules I can think of but I can't get this to work...

TIA!

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by davidlarson6 on Sun Feb 20, 2022 7:36 pm
I don't know how to do it with a ruleset, but assuming you're trying to get a slight detachment between the end of one slurred phrase and the beginning of the next, what I've done is to give the last note a tenuto mark.

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by michaelmyers1 on Mon Feb 21, 2022 8:35 pm
Thanks, I can modify each note under the end of a slur manually, but I'm trying to automate it.

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by davidlarson6 on Mon Feb 21, 2022 9:33 pm
Yeah, I figured that.

When I'm working in notation, I tend to think in notation. It's pretty common in the classical repertoire to see all kinds of markings under slurs. I've been practicing a Chopin piece that not only has staccato marks under a slur, but is marked for a held damper pedal at the same time. :)

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by acequantum on Tue Feb 22, 2022 2:00 pm
Just so I'm clear, rulesets don't work on the instruments that come with Notion. It would have to be set up on a VSTi, correct?

Here's an exaggerated example that has legato notes at the start and within the slur and then a staccato note at the end. I know it seems opposite the way it's set up, but it works this way.

Slurred Rule with short last note

notion slur short duration at end.JPG
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by michaelmyers1 on Thu Feb 24, 2022 8:10 pm
This works on my system but only for short, new pieces. When I try to apply this to a long score that has already had other rules applied, it doesn't do anything. So frustrating!!!

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by acequantum on Thu Feb 24, 2022 8:55 pm
Hi,

I'm sure you know, being the master of rulesets :), that the rulesets will have to follow an order of operations. If there is another ruleset after this that affects durations, that will take precedence.

However, maybe this simplified variation can help. Change the 90% to 10% for an obvious functioning example. (note the false condition check on the slurred release)

notion slur short last-2.JPG
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by madisonfinley on Sun Mar 06, 2022 4:26 pm
acequantum wroteJust so I'm clear, rulesets don't work on the instruments that come with Notion. It would have to be set up on a VSTi, correct?

I'm sure this has been asked before, but why is this true? I had to find out the hard way that I couldn't change to the settings I wanted (unless it DOES work and I'm still doing it wrong).

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by michaelmyers1 on Sun Mar 06, 2022 4:51 pm
madisonfinley wrote
acequantum wroteJust so I'm clear, rulesets don't work on the instruments that come with Notion. It would have to be set up on a VSTi, correct?

I'm sure this has been asked before, but why is this true? I had to find out the hard way that I couldn't change to the settings I wanted (unless it DOES work and I'm still doing it wrong).

There are rulesets for internal instruments but they are locked into the code for the program and are not accessible. I believe, though I'm far from certain, that it has to do with the licensing agreements for the original sample library that Notion uses.

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