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Hi all,

I am looking for best piano vst’s available that I can use in S4 Pro for movie piano music, and something thats as close to real acoustic grand piano as possible.

Thanks in advance,
Ed
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by pawelhebda on Wed Feb 13, 2019 7:04 am
Kontakt :)
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by eduardsgrieznis on Wed Feb 13, 2019 7:25 am
Which instrument in particular?
And doesnt it only uses .nki instruments, which are not supported by S4?
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by dcumpian on Wed Feb 13, 2019 7:27 am
There are three types of piano libraries out there:

    Sampled pianos
    Emulated pianos
    Piano-like synths

The first two will get you closest to an actual piano sound. Some prefer sampled pianos, others emulated. These would be my recommendations for you to look into:

    Impact Soundwork's Pearl - Kontakt Library
    Wavesfactory's Mercury - Kontakt Library
    Embertone's Walker 1955 Steinway - Kontakt Library
    Native Instrument's Alicia's Keys - Kontakt Library
    Ivory II (proprietary sample library as a VST)
    Pianoteq - Virtual piano VST

All of these are excellent pianos, with varying degrees of authenticity and playablility.

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by dcumpian on Wed Feb 13, 2019 7:28 am
eduardsgrieznis wroteWhich instrument in particular?
And doesnt it only uses .nki instruments, which are not supported by S4?


S4 supports Kontakt.

Dan
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by eduardsgrieznis on Wed Feb 13, 2019 7:29 am
Also perhaps someone can recommend something that doesnt eats that much memory like kontakt instruments do?
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by gregghart on Wed Feb 13, 2019 7:39 am
Studio One 3 even supported Kontakt. Kontakt is a VST. The VST uses NKI, which is no problem.

As to Kontakt using too much memory, never had a problem with that. I have tracks that have 30+ Kontakt instances and never ran into issues other than sometimes having to raise the buffer a bit, but with Studio One's excellent drop out protection along with my Focusrite's excellent "round trip" score, it's not been a problem.

As for Pianos, I use Alicia's Keys, Maverick, The Giant. Addictive Keys, and even a free piano by Keyzone that's surprisingly good.

The thing is, there are many piano sample sets out there and just like real pianos, each type has it's "sweet spot" and fits in it's very own unique place in music. Alicia's Keys is great for lighter music and pop, Maverick is great for classic rock and in places where it needs to be really shine through, The Giant is great for quieter moments and scoring, etc.

I hear that East West's and Impact Soundworks both make excellent piano sample sets, but I feel I have enough for my needs.

I even recorded a lady in my studio who did old time piano music using nothing but Alicia's Keys and a few FX to brighten it up a bit.

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by stevecoble on Wed Feb 13, 2019 8:52 am
Pianoteq!

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by Tacman7 on Wed Feb 13, 2019 8:57 am
I was thinking that if it's a VST instrument it's compatible with Studio One, and every other DAW as well.

Besides free ones that have problems...

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by frank.crow on Wed Feb 13, 2019 9:42 am
I use the Garritan ones in GPO5. They are super great on CPU. The IK Multimedia ones in Samptank 3 are good too but SampleTank is not as gentle on CPU.

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by shanabit on Wed Feb 13, 2019 10:36 am
Addictive Keys here, no CPU hit IMO

I would check out Ivory Italian

As far as the sound goes, totally your pref there.

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by Neiby on Wed Feb 13, 2019 2:19 pm
I have the Pearl Grand, Addictive Keys, Ivory Italian Grand, and Alicia's Keys. At the moment, my favorite is Alicia's Keys. They're all good depending on the sound you're going for. At the moment, I'm working on a solo piano song and found that Alicia's Keys was the best fit for what I wanted.

EDIT: I forgot I also have True Pianos. lol Which sounds fine in a mix, but I wouldn't use it as a solo instrument.
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by sirmonkey on Wed Feb 13, 2019 2:24 pm
Just buy a piano!

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by sirmonkey on Wed Feb 13, 2019 2:25 pm
Sorry, couldn't resist!

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by Jemusic on Wed Feb 13, 2019 2:31 pm
Waves Grand Rhapsody is really nice too.

https://www.waves.com/plugins/grand-rha ... QWEALw_wcB

It is very affordable as well.

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by miked7 on Wed Feb 13, 2019 7:52 pm
Neiby wrote...and Alicia's Keys. At the moment, my favorite is Alicia's Keys. They're all good depending on the sound you're going for. At the moment, I'm working on a solo piano song and found that Alicia's Keys was the best fit for what I wanted..

+1 Here it is in action. This artist uses Alicia's Keys.

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by tpittman on Wed Feb 13, 2019 10:08 pm
eduardsgrieznis wroteHi all,

I am looking for best piano vst’s available that I can use in S4 Pro for movie piano music, and something thats as close to real acoustic grand piano as possible.

Thanks in advance,
Ed


I take it you don't care for the Pianos in Presence?

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by Michael_Brown on Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:21 am
I have tried quite a few.
Miroslav Philharmonik 2 wins hands down. It is incredible.
https://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/philharmonik2/
But I guess it is all subjective.

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by Neiby on Thu Feb 14, 2019 1:08 am
Michael_Brown wroteI have tried quite a few.
Miroslav Philharmonik 2 wins hands down. It is incredible.
https://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/philharmonik2/
But I guess it is all subjective.


For $499, it better be the best! Holy cats, that's pricey. I bet it's fantastic.

For another Alicia's Keys example, here is the track I just finished today.

viewtopic.php?f=206&t=33774

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by Lokeyfly on Thu Feb 14, 2019 6:24 am
So many, but I have heard the highly recommended Alicia Keys for more mild piano. I like NI''s many offerings, including its NY Grand (Steinway Grand). My other favorite is Wav's Rhapsody, which is impressively real to my ears. I'm not any pianist so I'm not plucking down $500, but if it's that important to someone, they might not want anything less.

You just have to shop and compare to your piano needs. What might sound swell on its own may not cut through in a mix, or you don't care if it does. It's really up to you, regardless of any recommendations.

I would avoid any emulated, and piano like synths, unless you were chasing a Fender Rhodes, or other electric piano (wonderful instruments, though). Sounds like you want detailed sampling. Still, true sympathetic vibrations within that instrument will vary.

Check out these three from NI ($199).
https://www.native-instruments.com/en/products/komplete/keys/definitive-piano-collection/

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