If they could make a new AVB product compatible with the old ones they would have done it with the new SL series.
The reality is they don't code the AVB themselves, it's farmed out to 3rd party and the one that did the original AVB stopped doing it and won't release the code. AVB is not a "standard", it's just a way defined way of sending audio/video packets over ethernet using proprietary clocking. What those packets contain and how the data is formatted and used is proprietary to each vendor.
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That's true... though AVB absolutely is a standard. It's an IEEE standard, which is one thing Dante is not - though it is built out of a few of them. The problem with standards is they can be implemented in different ways in the early days, there's usually sufficient ambiguity that the early implementations can be said to be standards compliant whilst not actually being compatible with each other. The other problem is AVB consists of various parts and not all are necessarily implemented by everyone.
I tend to prefer open standards to proprietary offerings but AVB is so far behind, needs magic switches and doesn't work in Windows. In it's current guise it's basically dead. I don't understand why Presonus haven't just ditched it entirely in favour of a dante card slot in the new mixers. |
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Presonus have pointed RM mixers are not legacy products - the RML series is still on sale and I think shares firmware with RM mixers. Users are not requesting product upgrades, simply waiting (some for years!) for Presonus to deliver features promised at point of sale, and restated in thread started by Ray last December and since! As we approach the anniversary of the last Firmware release I hope we have some positive news soon, before this does become a legacy product! ____________________________________________________________________________ "@Ray....We had originally planned to release this firmware in April but ran into some technical issues that have delayed the release. We're currently expecting to have it in Public Beta in June with a full release in July" ____________________________________________________________________________ |
The lack of a fully functioning Midi I/O on RML 16AI nearly 1 year after I upgraded from a (fully functioning) StudioLive 16.0.2 is a poor reflection on Presonus. The Midi I/O is a key item to getting the best from this mixer when using it Live.
Any chance Presonus can give us a realistic update. If this update is not going to happen soon then I think I will have no choice but to swap to another brand with proper support for their hardware. Come on Presonus step up! |
In the first post of this thread Ray Tantzen wrote about the MIDI implementation: " Implementation for this is underway and we expect it in a firmware update in 2017. I'll provide more details and info on availability as we get closer to completion." The year 2017 is still 5 months long, so be patient. The RM32AI rack mixer was introduced on Sept. 1, 2014 (see press release), which is almost 3 years ago now.
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ricdonzell wroteWell....I can only guess that Presonus has left the RM32 platform in the dust and is obviously no longer supported by the company....shame Not true. However, this is a user forum, so if you need input from Presonus I suggest a support ticket. The AI mixer ecosystem is actively being supported. It remains the only system for applications of higher channel counts than 32 are needed. |
I would suggest you join and post your question to the Facebook group: Presonus StudioLive Mixer Users
PreSonus has more visibility there than I have ever seen in these user forums many times to appease the new class of users....so apparently, they feel more obligated (or stuck) than ever. |
Hi Raymond...
You wrote: "...new Series III have a new solution that has all the AVB implementation complete. This is a new solution that wasn't available during the development of the RM/AI mixers." I suspect that this solution is basically a new AVB chip containing all needed AVB functionality similar to this chip: http://www.smart2zero.com/news/ethernet ... stribution If so, I would suggest that you spend your RM/AI dev hours on an updated AVB option card fitted with the new so called "solution". You already have working AVB chipset drivers in Series 3 that hopefully can be wrapped/reused. Happy customer = can swap to new AVB option card for a fair upgrade cost and get full AVB spec on mixer + can send/rec AVB audio to series 3 devices. My setup motu avb switch, CS18, RML32, RML16 cascaded |
Well said!! However unlike you, I’m regretting my purchase. Always loved PreSonus products. But this one was a deal breaker for me. Why would you advertise what you can’t deliver? I simply took your word and got screwed. Thanks PreSonus
Tonehenge wroteHi Raymond... It's always good to chat with you. 1st of all, I've never regretted the purchase of my RM32ai. It's sonic performance has been exemplary, and my experience in terms of construction and reliability has been that it's bulletproof. |
What would I need more? The Studio One integration is phantastic; I can use the new Fat Channel with the vintage EQs and compressors, I can use literally any plug-in, I can replace the four FX of the RM mixers with any effect I want, I can use any flex mix for bus processing, I can record up to 64 tracks, I can use the AVB audio features of the CS18AI at FOH or any input and output of the RM mixer at FOH... No, I do not regret my purchase and I don't need anything "new". There is not much that the Series III products offer more. The DAW button on the CS18AI makes this system unique. The RM mixers and Studio One are well integrated and it is the CS18AI, which brings it all together. |
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