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Procedures for punch in added.

So did 3.5.1 change anything here? Is traditional punch in with live instruments and LLM now possible?

Read the post above you

LAGinz wroteSo did 3.5.1 change anything here? Is traditional punch in with live instruments and LLM now possible?

3.5.1 didn't appear to change anything.

But, according to the Handbook: if you enable 1) Tape Style Monitoring, and 2) Green Z Monitoring then you will hear:

1. Live audio while playback is stopped
2. Previously recorded audio (only) up to the punch in point
3. Live audio (only) during the punch-in section
4. Previously recorded audio (only) after the punch-out point

If you 1) Turn off Tape Style monitoring, and 2) Turn off the Green Z (either no Z, or Blue Z) then you will hear:

1) Live audio while playback is stopped
2) Previously recorded audio + live audio (both simultaneously) up to the punch in point
3) Live audio (only) during the punch-in section
4) Previosly recorded audio + live audio (both simultaneously) after the punch-out point

Hope that clarifies.

I really think this whole "Tape Style On or Off + Green Z or Blue Z or No Z" is just confusing and quite a bit to keep track of. Studio One should be smart enough to know what I want to hear during a punch in and adjust accordingly without me having to check boxes on or off, or getting several different variants based on checkbox settings. And it's only gotten more complicated over time, not easier! But 3.5 is still relatively young, so hopefully, a better solution will appear in the near future.

Small clarification only in non Z do you hear both.
Just exactly like pre 3.5. so you have not lost anything just not gain anything with audio punch-in.

Blue Z bypasses S1 completely and there is no native FX in the direct path. However you can do as you always could and add reverb and echo to a bus and it will be merged with the blue path (or even the green path) but with the difference in the latencies of both paths.

If you read the manual that close you also read the reason why tape style monitor is missing in DP/NLLM design.

Has this issue been fixed yet in the latest version of Studio one pro 4 yet?..Surely by now the developers have this problem sorted?..

That the way it works now.

If you want to punch into an existing track try using normal mode.

Please bring this function back in the next big update. Green Z monitoring is awesome but useless to me if i can't hear live input along with pre recorded track before punch in,, and i don't want to have a workarounds, just please make this work as it should...Please!!!!

As said in the handbook and many times here, LLM does not work for the case of punching in on the same track (for technical reasons).
In just that scenario you have to go back to the old pre-LLM method know as "Standard Mode".
In that mode, it works like it use to.

Damn, that's a bummer.....I hope that the developers can figure out how to do it, that would really be a game changer....

Most users voicing concern over this seem to agree that adding an extra audio track with monitoring engaged alongside a recording-armed track accomplishes the desired outcome — in spite of any technical shortcomings or ramifications to playback latency this approach may have.

And yet it’s a kludgy workaround. It requires unnecessary user input and project configuration, clutters the interface with redundant channels, adds complexity and hampers workflow...

Why not simply abstract these functional steps and unnecessary GUI elements away from the user? Instantiate the underlying audio stream and routing of the workaround into the monitoring button-click itself, without the need for a separate visible channel in the workspace or console view.

Make it a selectable preference, and clearly document any technical/functional drawbacks which may accompany each approach, so folks can pick their poison and choose the implementation which suits their workflow best.

That’d be hot yo.

This ever get resolved with Studio One 6 ? Or do we use same work around/s as prior versions ?

Could you run through what issues you are having?

What needs to be resolved?

Thanks

Tacman7 wroteCould you run through what issues you are having?

What needs to be resolved?

Thanks

Sorry. Been away for a while. The original post was my issue too. But after reading this thread again, I found the answer. To monitor both input and previously recorded track during overdubs we have to disable "Z" and turn "Tape Style Monitoring" off. Or create another track to monitor input. Again sorry for the late response.

I’m still encountering this issue. When Monitor is enabled on a track and low latency monitoring is enabled the session, I cannot hear playback on the track.