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Hi all, first post. Maybe I'm not framing my question correctly when searching, but is it possible to send the FX1 and 2 to the auxes only?

I have a 24.4.2 that I use for recording, and I want the vocalist to have a little reverb or slapback in her cue mix, but I don't want to hear it through the control room speakers. I only want to hear her dry vocal.

I do have the auxes getting the FX, BTW.

This was easy with an analog mixer. You just routed your effect outs to a couple of faders, turned up the aux send and kept the faders at zero, but for the life of me I'm missing how to do it with the built-in effect busses.

Thanks in advance.

Bob

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by lockbody on Thu Jan 11, 2018 10:04 am
lockbody wroteThis was easy with an analog mixer. You just routed your effect outs to a couple of faders, turned up the aux send and kept the faders at zero, but for the life of me I'm missing how to do it with the built-in effect busses.


I think I found a solution on page 21 of the forum. Route the FX returned to a sub instead of the mains. Basically the same as in the analog world, if it works.

Bob

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by sjc193 on Thu Jan 11, 2018 10:16 am
With the classic 24.4.2 mixer there is a way to get to the FX returns for each aux by clicking the MIX button twice. This is with the latest firmware. They used to call it AUX flip mode I think (this was many years ago) so try searching the forum for aux flip mode and see if you can find it better explained. You may also find info about this in the latest manual online.

But basically just hit the MIX button twice and there will be other thing like tape in, aux ins, FX returns and maybe a couple other things there that can be added to an AUX mix. I just don't remember the order. . .

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by lockbody on Thu Jan 11, 2018 1:21 pm
Thanks Steve. The issue isn't getting the FX to the aux (which I have done), but not hearing the FX through the control room, while the aux mix does hear the FX.

If I read the post I referred to in my second post correctly, I should be able to assign the FX output to a sub instead of the main mix, keep the sub fader at zero, and assign the sub to the aux mix.

I won't be able to test this until later, but it does sound like it should work.

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by SwitchBack on Thu Jan 11, 2018 2:20 pm
Subs don't route to auxes, so that trick won't work.

But, unless I'm misunderstanding your control room requirements, why not simply take the FX out of Main? It will still go to the auxes if you do.
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by lockbody on Thu Jan 11, 2018 3:12 pm
SwitchBack wroteSubs don't route to auxes, so that trick won't work.

But, unless I'm misunderstanding your control room requirements, why not simply take the FX out of Main? It will still go to the auxes if you do.


My first thought when reading that was "Wait, you can do that?" :oops:

But yeah, I think you've got a handle on what I want to do. I just use my SL as a glorified interface into S1, so all I want to hear in the CR is what's being recorded. I can always solo the singer's aux if I want to hear what they're getting.

So under the Assign buttons I just deselect Main? I don't know why, but I've always though those were an either/or deal, so I didn't even think of trying it. You know, Main or Sub1, or Sub2, etc...

Thanks!

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by sjc193 on Thu Jan 11, 2018 3:13 pm
Ya I think you just want to turn the FX pot knob all the way down, it is the return for the Main and should not have anything to do with level going to the AUX.

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by sjc193 on Thu Jan 11, 2018 3:14 pm
Or deselect Main should work too

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2 OHM MR450D Subs with Kilomax 18inch drivers
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1 Crest Pro-Lite 7.5 (7500 watts) amp, 2 Behringer EP4000 amps
10 58/57 mics, 1 SM86, 1 sE8, 1 sE2200, 1 AT2020, 2 AT2021
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by SwitchBack on Thu Jan 11, 2018 3:31 pm
I think the FX pot comes before the FX processor, so it will mute everything when you turn it down. It'll have to be the button ;)
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by lockbody on Thu Jan 11, 2018 3:37 pm
SwitchBack wroteI think the FX pot comes before the FX processor, so it will mute everything when you turn it down. It'll have to be the button ;)


Yep, turning the pot down lowers the signal to the aux.

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by wahlerstudios on Thu Jan 11, 2018 5:03 pm
The pots on Aux 1 to 10 and FX A+B are controlling signal send, the "Assign" of the FX return happens in the Fat Channel. Press "Select" and de-activate any selection of the Assign buttons (the buttons above channels 13 to 17). Now FX signals can be heard in the auxes, but not in mains and control room. I always used the faders of Sub 1+2 as returns for delay(s) and Sub 3+4 as return for reverb(s). But it feels like ages ago. I mean, it is... ;-)

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by lockbody on Fri Jan 12, 2018 6:21 am
Thanks all! It’s always the simplest solutions.

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