Studiolive 32Ai, 24Ai and 16Ai Consoles with Universal Control Ai, SL Remote Ai, and QMix Ai
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First off i will list the gear I am using.

Studiolive 16.4.2 ai
Universal audio LA610 compressor/preamp
Lexicon mx400 reverb processor
External eq
imac
DAW is ableton 9

Now for the issue I am running into!!

I have from the aux out on mixer to UA610 and Lexicon mx400 and then back into the aux in. Through the headphones and moniters in my room i have no problem hearing all of the effects that i am using. I record and i can hear them in the headphones while i am recording. The problem arises when i listen back to the recordings they are recorded dry, with none of the effects. Is there a setting on the mixer or something that will allow me tp record while using the gear plugged into the aux's?

Thanks

Jake
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by sjc193 on Mon Aug 28, 2017 12:54 pm
Depends on what you are recording. . .

Are you recording the separate tracks/channels?

Or are you recording the MAIN Left/Right mix in stereo?

The separate mono channel recordings will not have any processing on them at all, they will be dry unless you use the DIGOUT option, then they will have the FAT channel processing, but it would still be a pre fader pre external processing feed to the computer.

The MAIN mix stereo Left/Right recording which is typically channels 17/18 would have the external processing mixed in if it is in the Main Mix.

There are options in UC Surface Setup page to change what channels are going to the daw from which outputs/inputs. You may be able to record the AUX in, if not you could come into a couple of open channels.

Can you explain exactly what you are trying to record? Are you punching in one track at a time or a whole band? If one track at a time you would want to use the inserts for external processing maybe? I just need a little more info to better point you in the right direction.

Steve

StudioLive RM32AI
Rackmount Windows 8.1 PC Quad core 8G ram
ASUS RT-N66U Dual Band Router
IPad2, IPad Air 2, Studio One 3 Pro, 1 DBX Driverack 260
2 QSC KW 153's, 2 Turbosound TMS-1's
2 OHM MR450D Subs with Kilomax 18inch drivers
4 EV ZLX-12P's, 1 TurboSound iX15, 2 Yamaha S115V's
1 Crest Pro-Lite 7.5 (7500 watts) amp, 2 Behringer EP4000 amps
10 58/57 mics, 1 SM86, 1 sE8, 1 sE2200, 1 AT2020, 2 AT2021
1 beta52 kick mic, 2 e609, 2 Radial J48 DI's, 1 PRO48 DI
2 4Bar lights, 1 4Play, 1 6Spot, 1 fog machine
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by kooljake on Mon Aug 28, 2017 1:22 pm
I am recording the seperate tracks/channels. It is mostly one or 2 channels at a time. If i were to use the insert instead of the aux in/out wouldn't iy limit me to only be able to use one external effect unit at a time? Also i can't figure out how to record the main left and right instead of the individual channels.
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by kooljake on Mon Aug 28, 2017 1:40 pm
Ok. I think you have directed me in the right direction!! I have figured out how to record the main mix which includes my external units. Looks like i am re recording these vocals i just spent 3 hours doing, but its good for learning. Its definitly more complicated than the usb boxes ive always used, but that's all good.

Thank you Steve for the speedy reply and help!

Jake
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by sjc193 on Mon Aug 28, 2017 4:36 pm
Cool!

One thing you could do would be to send the separate channel recordings back to the mixer (monitor buttons in S1 FireWire buttons on mixer per channel) and then record the processing via the main mix or even find a way to just record the processing itself to mix with the channels later in studio one. That way you do t have to record it all again, but you can get the sound of the processors that you want recorded.

Once you get use to the FireWire routing you will realize there are all kinds of things you can do with it. It's quite powerful but you need to understand where all the insert points to the sends and returns are first to take full advantage of it

Good luck!

Steve

StudioLive RM32AI
Rackmount Windows 8.1 PC Quad core 8G ram
ASUS RT-N66U Dual Band Router
IPad2, IPad Air 2, Studio One 3 Pro, 1 DBX Driverack 260
2 QSC KW 153's, 2 Turbosound TMS-1's
2 OHM MR450D Subs with Kilomax 18inch drivers
4 EV ZLX-12P's, 1 TurboSound iX15, 2 Yamaha S115V's
1 Crest Pro-Lite 7.5 (7500 watts) amp, 2 Behringer EP4000 amps
10 58/57 mics, 1 SM86, 1 sE8, 1 sE2200, 1 AT2020, 2 AT2021
1 beta52 kick mic, 2 e609, 2 Radial J48 DI's, 1 PRO48 DI
2 4Bar lights, 1 4Play, 1 6Spot, 1 fog machine
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by sjc193 on Mon Aug 28, 2017 4:42 pm
You can use all four external processors on the insert of a single channel. Just need an insert cable (1 TRS on one end 2 TS on the other end), send TS goes into first processor, return TS plugs into out of the last processor, I believe anything on the insert does get recorded by the mono channel recording

StudioLive RM32AI
Rackmount Windows 8.1 PC Quad core 8G ram
ASUS RT-N66U Dual Band Router
IPad2, IPad Air 2, Studio One 3 Pro, 1 DBX Driverack 260
2 QSC KW 153's, 2 Turbosound TMS-1's
2 OHM MR450D Subs with Kilomax 18inch drivers
4 EV ZLX-12P's, 1 TurboSound iX15, 2 Yamaha S115V's
1 Crest Pro-Lite 7.5 (7500 watts) amp, 2 Behringer EP4000 amps
10 58/57 mics, 1 SM86, 1 sE8, 1 sE2200, 1 AT2020, 2 AT2021
1 beta52 kick mic, 2 e609, 2 Radial J48 DI's, 1 PRO48 DI
2 4Bar lights, 1 4Play, 1 6Spot, 1 fog machine
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by kooljake on Mon Aug 28, 2017 7:36 pm
That's exaclty what i did. I ran each track individually (solo) through a new track and then recorded the main mix (with the processing) into a new track on my daw. That way i didn't have to actualy re record anything. It worked flawlessly!.

When you say about using multiple processors on the insert of one channel would it essentialy create a chain? I was thinking about that as well and i may try to see if i can work it out.
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by sjc193 on Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:42 am
kooljake wroteWhen you say about using multiple processors on the insert of one channel would it essentialy create a chain? I was thinking about that as well and i may try to see if i can work it out.


Yup.

The insert Jack is actually an out and an in all in the same jack, no other jack on the mixer is wired like an insert jack. Google insert jack to gain full understanding because you need special "insert cables". But basically you come out of the insert to the first processor, connect the other processors in series like you already are doing i'm sure, then come out of the last processor back into the insert. That "inserts" all of you processing into that channel before it hits the FAT channel, and also before it goes to recording because it happens post gain and pre A/D converters (in the analog realm).

The only issue with that is that it only works for one channel at a time (although if each processor had 2 channels you could do 2 channels separately at the same time). if you want to process multiple channels at a time, then using the AUX out and AUX in like you are now is the way to go.

Steve

StudioLive RM32AI
Rackmount Windows 8.1 PC Quad core 8G ram
ASUS RT-N66U Dual Band Router
IPad2, IPad Air 2, Studio One 3 Pro, 1 DBX Driverack 260
2 QSC KW 153's, 2 Turbosound TMS-1's
2 OHM MR450D Subs with Kilomax 18inch drivers
4 EV ZLX-12P's, 1 TurboSound iX15, 2 Yamaha S115V's
1 Crest Pro-Lite 7.5 (7500 watts) amp, 2 Behringer EP4000 amps
10 58/57 mics, 1 SM86, 1 sE8, 1 sE2200, 1 AT2020, 2 AT2021
1 beta52 kick mic, 2 e609, 2 Radial J48 DI's, 1 PRO48 DI
2 4Bar lights, 1 4Play, 1 6Spot, 1 fog machine

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