No, not yet as there are currently no stageboxes available

Ok
But is it possible to use another stagebox, like the digital snake from Behringer?

frankholm wroteOk
But is it possible to use another stagebox, like the digital snake from Behringer?

Not really. From a digital point of view they are not compatible. You can hack something in the analog domain but I would not do it unless you were going to get an x/m32 in the future.

There is one cool product that could be used that converts between different formats and that is the

https://www.thomann.de/gb/appsys_multiverter_mvr_64.htm
http://appsys.ch/en/products/digital-fo ... ter-mvr-64

But the avb support isn't implemented yet and the price is quite high. But it is a very cool product!

For the time being you need to rely on an analog snake.

Thanks for the answers.

Too bad its a no go for me,was really looking forward to it, but i need a small, light and easy solution to travel around with. And my Studiolive 16.0.2 is to small for my needs, will sell it and go for the X32 compact with SD8 or 16 with cat5 cable.

Unless you need more than 16 outputs then go for the sd16. While the sd8 is nice eight channels are easy to outgrow on the stage

Do not interprete "for the time being" wrong. OF COURSE THERE WILL BE stageboxes/digital snakes. Five stageboxes are planned in configurations 8x8 to 32x16, the first three will be shipping around September. "Personal monitors" will also be part of the StudioLive III "ecosystem".

If you need to buy now and if you want to have it even more compact, a RM/RML16AI and an iPad might be a good alternative.

Another question:
Will the "Audio Network" connector be used to connect with Cat cable to the new stage boxes?


Need they setup before concert season starts in June, and need it all to be ready before May.
Also need a mixer with hardware faders, so an iPad solution will not work for me.

I will go for two SD8 so that i can have one box on each side of the stage.

Of course Ethernet, as PreSonus has it already for some time. If you need faders with a RM mixer, the CS18AI controller gives you what you want. Ethernet and wireless.

But the digital stageboxes for series III will come only in fall, so enjoy your B. stuff.

We are looking at upgrading to this amazing board the 32 channel version (my sound guys LOVE it), but this digital snake issue is really a pain. I just spoke to one CS person at Presonus that said I could use the AVB switch and the MOTU stage box which has been tested and will work. Went to look it up and MOTU doesn't offer a 32 channel. Having been trying to call back for a couple hours to get clarification... no luck.
So... IF it's true the MOTU/AVB will work, that's great for 16 channel board. Question is can we do anything now for 32 channel?

Wouldn't it be better to just use the old copper snake, than spending a lot of money and not knowing where the journey goes? September is not too far away and the result will be worth the wait...

Hi,
I'm a bit scared about the Series III not being able to integrate with other pro audio gear. I'm not wise about this stuff but I bought the SL32 III to do a summer tour this year. I just found out yesterday that no festival i Denmark has old XLR-snakes from FOH to scene. I therefore need Dante/AVB/Cat5/6 integration for the console to work. If this is impossible I really feel this is a joke. The Series III should be a step up from Behringer X32/ Midas M32 and so on - and they are totally compatible with other pro gear. Why isn't the Series III compatible?

I talked to a tech specialist on a job two days ago, and he couldn't believe that there are an ethernet port on the console and that it is AVB-ready if it isn't being able to integrate with other digital stageboxes/systems. There must be a fix for this, he said. Maybe it is just a matter of certification, he said, because the AVB protocol it pretty much the same as Dante, so No integration doesn't make sense, he said. He is a beta-tester for MIDAS, so I believe he knows what he was talking about...

Can a Presonus tech please explain to me why the SL 32 III can't integrate via Ethernet port, I need this to work! I have a few days to deliver the console back (if lack of compability will continue to be an issue), so please make a fast and understandable answer to calm my nerves... I like the Presonus Sound, but I need my setup to work flawless when going on tour!

Yours Sincerely,

Morten, Denmark

I would not say that avb and dante/aes67 are similar. They share some parts but work quite differently under the hood when it comes to networking. Avb unfortunately leave room for incompatibility between devices. Even presonus currently struggles with compatibility between the series-2 and series-3 line of mixers and they won't work together in avb. Thet are currently not even sure of if this can be resolved or not...

Dante is a propetiary(?) protocol from a single manufacturer called Audinate and everyone else buys oem kits for their implementation of the protocol and this ensures compatibility between different devices and vendors.

Not even Behringer implement dante by themselves...

At this point in time avb is a niche product while dante/aes67 is widely spread. Time will tell if avb will be able to catch up, but dante has an advantage with its current user base. Audinate was once a member of the avb project but decided to invest in aes67 instead. This means that most dante enabled products will also benefit from aes67.

"There is no option card slot on these mixers. We are looking into potentially supporting Dante via AES67 with a future firmware update but there's more R&D to be done to see what that will take to accomplish." (Ray Tantzen, Oct. 27, 2016, question "Ever going to expand with Dante or Madi?": https://forums.presonus.com/viewtopic.php?p=119383#p119383)

This was written more than half a year ago. I think there was no information of importance in this regard since then. There is no Dante on board and the AVB stageboxes are again delayed, but they are still talking about "this year". It is clear what you want and need, and it is also clear that the SL III can not deliver. This may look different summer next year, but for this year's season the only advice can be to use a board which fits in the festival situation.

If you can not use the SL III for something else, better return it to the shop. Do NOT wait for something which might come - or not, or maybe, or...

Thanks for your fast replies,

It's a shame that there isn't a slot for Dante in the console now that compability is uncertain. I will do some calls to see if I can bring a rentet 50meter XLR-snake to do the shows. I hope that it is possible, or else I feel that the SL32 III has let me down. I know It is my own fault not to have looked into the compability specs, but I reality didn't think of it to be an issue (before now)! I thought it was state of the art. That was my impression...

Thanks,
M

Expect the festival crew to be very happy to throw out and then collect a long and bulky snake for a single act in a crowded area if it's not a part of their deal with the organizer

I would expect you to have to invest in your own digital stagebox (or at least need to rent one) in the future if you stay with the presonus avb as I don't see the other major brands incorperating avb into their line of mixers in a near future. Dante or madi would be a safer bet.

You probably need to invest in a backup stagebox as well or your single point of failure leave you open to fatal issues that won't be easily resolved.

One workaround is to bring a computer with dante dvs installed. This way you can route the audio from the sl32 usb into the dante network (I don't think that avb-->dante dvs would work unless you have more than one network interface installed).

This would give you some 10ms of latency but that would only be crusial for some monitor and you can remedy this by using the analog outputs from the sl32.