Lance, nothing has been reported on this front yet as the mixer has not yet hit the street.

Hi Lance,

Currently, we're seeing 7.5ms of latency at 32 sample buffers on USB. I don't have measurements for AVB yet.

Thank you!

I don't think you would have that problem if it had the firewire ports included. I have never heard of a usb port not having latency issues. Known fact -Firewire has been solid for years but the demand for a usb connection is high because they don't build PC's with that port anymore. Real Producers and sound people need them. How can you create the perfect board without firewire or card option??? You want high sells give all the options, you have people waiting...You guys create so many boards but leave out the most valuable options.We know you created your boards for live sound but the Daw producers get shafted all the time. fader port 8 sweet but we want a full board that has the ports -faders and options. well you guys know all of this but the bottom line is do you care.No one has created a great board with us in mind! If the would we wouldn't have to ask for features that you took away you enjoy your product. Our home studios are Gold to us but buying a firewire analog board and a daw controller is a bit much. You got in this game to make a change for the better but home studios get shafted.We can't spend our money on a great board if you don't create one for us. we shouldn't have to move to pro tools to get a old school great board to work because everyone keeps dropping the ball. You guys are great and i love everything that you have created for the other guys a usb 8 fader port? Gee thanks

stingray1122 wroteHi Lance,

Currently, we're seeing 7.5ms of latency at 32 sample buffers on USB. I don't have measurements for AVB yet.

Hi Ray, I'm also interested in the Studiolive 32 as a front end for Studio One now DAW mode is in beta.

Is the 7.5ms latency mentioned full round trip and at what frequency?

I'm not too worried about tracking with native plugins as this is a mixer and the new fat channel sounds great.

Do you have a figure for latency for VST instruments though? What's kind of output latency(not round trip) could I expect for the built in USB interface running on PC (I've a new 6 core i7 with Samsung Evo960 NVME drives and 16Gb RAM running Windows 10 and generally use 48KHz for most projects.)

Also is AVB any better and if so has Presonus tested compatibility with the Echo NIC AVB card(I think this is pretty well the only PC AVB card on the market!) with this yet?

Thanks, Alan

alancloughley wrote

stingray1122 wroteHi Lance,

Currently, we're seeing 7.5ms of latency at 32 sample buffers on USB. I don't have measurements for AVB yet.

Hi Ray, I'm also interested in the Studiolive 32 as a front end for Studio One now DAW mode is in beta.

Is the 7.5ms latency mentioned full round trip and at what frequency?

I'm not too worried about tracking with native plugins as this is a mixer and the new fat channel sounds great.

Do you have a figure for latency for VST instruments though? What's kind of output latency(not round trip) could I expect for the built in USB interface running on PC (I've a new 6 core i7 with Samsung Evo960 NVME drives and 16Gb RAM running Windows 10 and generally use 48KHz for most projects.)

Also is AVB any better and if so has Presonus tested compatibility with the Echo NIC AVB card(I think this is pretty well the only PC AVB card on the market!) with this yet?

Thanks, Alan

Hi Alan. I will have to come back with a confirmation later when I get home, but Ray's post is a little older, and there have been some driver updates since then. Going from memory, I am getting laower latency than Ray was reporting, close to 5ms rtl through USB. All latency numbers for the series 3 are at 48.0 sample rate, since that is currently the only option currently. Not sure of the Echo option, but I think AVB latency on a mac is closer to 10-11ms.

A very impressive 5.33ms RTL in green Z LLM mode @ 32 buffers.
4.67ms at 16 buffers.

matthewgorman wrote

alancloughley wrote

stingray1122 wroteHi Lance,

Currently, we're seeing 7.5ms of latency at 32 sample buffers on USB. I don't have measurements for AVB yet.

Hi Ray, I'm also interested in the Studiolive 32 as a front end for Studio One now DAW mode is in beta.

Is the 7.5ms latency mentioned full round trip and at what frequency?

I'm not too worried about tracking with native plugins as this is a mixer and the new fat channel sounds great.

Do you have a figure for latency for VST instruments though? What's kind of output latency(not round trip) could I expect for the built in USB interface running on PC (I've a new 6 core i7 with Samsung Evo960 NVME drives and 16Gb RAM running Windows 10 and generally use 48KHz for most projects.)

Also is AVB any better and if so has Presonus tested compatibility with the Echo NIC AVB card(I think this is pretty well the only PC AVB card on the market!) with this yet?

Thanks, Alan

Hi Alan. I will have to come back with a confirmation later when I get home, but Ray's post is a little older, and there have been some driver updates since then. Going from memory, I am getting laower latency than Ray was reporting, close to 5ms rtl through USB. All latency numbers for the series 3 are at 48.0 sample rate, since that is currently the only option currently. Not sure of the Echo option, but I think AVB latency on a mac is closer to 10-11ms.

Awesome, thanks for the response 5ms rtl sounds pretty good I'd assume a ms or so off for output latency of VST instruments maybe? Are you on Mac or PC? If you have a second to confirm VST latency in S1 that would really help me decide whether to pick one of these up for the studio. Thanks for the info on AVB too much appreciated. Sounds like it should all be more than playable at that. Have you tried out DAW mode with Studio one and if so what's first impressions of that and using the mixer with S1 generally? Thanks Again really helps getting some feedback from someone who is using one of these things with S1.

jpettit wroteA very impressive 5.33ms RTL in green Z LLM mode @ 32 buffers.
4.67ms at 16 buffers.

Hi, thanks loads for looking that up, good to see someone else getting pretty useable latency. Are you on Mac or PC? If you've got a second to look up the reported VST instrument latency in S1 that would be great. Are you happy with it in a studio recording setting and have you tried out the new S1 DAW mode yet?

Might make a trip to the music shop tomorrow and pick one of these up!

Thanks again, Alan

Confirming that my RTL numbers are the same as Jeff, although I use no Low Latency Monitoring, but dropout protection set to max.

On windows desktop in my sig.

Yes, have been using daw mode. For me personally, daw mode is worth the price on its own. I have the 32 channel console Its the closest to working in anal;og that I have personally used. I don't do much with midi, so I am probably not the best person to ask for RTL of VST Instruments. Sorry.

matthewgorman wroteConfirming that my RTL numbers are the same as Jeff, although I use no Low Latency Monitoring, but dropout protection set to max.

On windows desktop in my sig.

Yes, have been using daw mode. For me personally, daw mode is worth the price on its own. I have the 32 channel console Its the closest to working in anal;og that I have personally used. I don't do much with midi, so I am probably not the best person to ask for RTL of VST Instruments. Sorry.

No problem, apologies I should have checked the signatures! I'm pretty sure VST instrument latency will be slightly better as it's not round trip(in and out) just output latency. Thanks for the info and recommendation

alancloughley wrote

jpettit wroteA very impressive 5.33ms RTL in green Z LLM mode @ 32 buffers.
4.67ms at 16 buffers.

Hi, thanks loads for looking that up, good to see someone else getting pretty useable latency. Are you on Mac or PC? If you've got a second to look up the reported VST instrument latency in S1 that would be great. Are you happy with it in a studio recording setting and have you tried out the new S1 DAW mode yet?

Might make a trip to the music shop tomorrow and pick one of these up!

Thanks again, Alan

Instrument with Green Z
4.5 @ 16
4.83 @ 32
Don't know why I just installed another mixer for testing and am getting slightly lower numbers

Very good for virtual instruments.

jpettit wrote

alancloughley wrote

jpettit wroteA very impressive 5.33ms RTL in green Z LLM mode @ 32 buffers.
4.67ms at 16 buffers.

Hi, thanks loads for looking that up, good to see someone else getting pretty useable latency. Are you on Mac or PC? If you've got a second to look up the reported VST instrument latency in S1 that would be great. Are you happy with it in a studio recording setting and have you tried out the new S1 DAW mode yet?

Might make a trip to the music shop tomorrow and pick one of these up!

Thanks again, Alan

Instrument with Green Z
4.5 @ 16
4.83 @ 32
Don't know why I just installed another mixer for testing and am getting slightly lower numbers

Much appreciated, sounds pretty useable to me! Thanks, Alan

I just taken ownership of a StudioLive 32 & in the real world cannot achieve playback without distortion below 256 samples via a USB 2.0 connection.

My USB 2.0 connection is through a brand new USB 3.0 (PCIe card) in my Win 7 PC with 16GB Ram & 12mb Cache on the CPU (processor) . If I select 128 Samples (buffer size) & playback ONE AUDIO TRACK with Studio One 3.5 or Sonar the track is distorted. My reported round trip latency @ 256 is 18.3 ms (880 Samples) which is not do-able for recordings to be in sync.

Although the StudioLive 32 splash screen that loads the drivers for the mixer has a dropdown list that shows the mixer can be set to 16 Samples there's no way that any of these settings work on my system. If I'm doing something wrong or overlooking a setting then I would appreciate some help from anyone who can provide a solution.

I have recently replaced a PCIe (audio card with 32 channels) that I had set @ 64 samples (buffer size) and everything worked flawlessly for close to 8 years. I thought it would be nice to have a DAW controller with motorized faders & that prompted me to purchase a Presonus StudioLive 32 but now I'm not so sure that was the right choice.

I do hope someone can shine a light on this issue for me because I don't want to be a technician but rather a music producer/musician. Reported latency & actual working numbers are two different things & as users we don't simply load one wave or mp3 file to test the outcome of our settings rather, there may be 7 VI's, 15 plugin's along with 12 + additional audio tracks that would resemble the scenario more closely & then take the test to see if that is still workable within the specified buffer setting?

Check out a freeware program "latencymon". Run that for a while (30 min or so) and you should get a report of where the possible hangups are on your system, and will tell you of tweaks you can make to improve performance.

Also note that the mixer will always send 40 channels of 24 bit WAV data @ 48 kHz, no matter if you use only one or all 40 channels. That’s 46 Mbits/s your port must be able to handle.

Tele, try using a USB 2.0 port. Sometimes in making a USB 3.0 port backwards compatible, there may be issues.