StudioLive RM32Ai and RM16Ai Mixers & UC Surface with QMix Ai
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It's getting to be about time to start wondering when this update is going to come. Ray started this thread in September, and no update has come yet.

It would be nice if someone would at least come back and say: Yes we got behind but the update is still going to come, maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but we will not leave you behind!

The FireWire Lag is the only thing I'm really bummed about at this point, but I know there are other things they were going to do to make it even better too.

Almost a year since the last update. . . I hope we get one more good one before it's all over. . .


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by ronron3 on Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:36 pm

​Quote from Universal Control 2.0 Release Notes ( feb 21 2017 ) : Control and metering for mixers connected over firewire is too slow ..........

Quote from Universal Control 2.5.2 Milestone Release Notes ( jan 30 2018 ) : Control and metering on UC Surface instance connected via Firewire may exhibit lag on some systems ..........

Obviously nothing has been done to solve the problem

Come on you guys and girls at presonus , this is going on for almost a year now ... I'm starting to loose confidence !
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by Spirit on Wed Jan 31, 2018 5:00 am
I allready lost confidence. I think nobody is really working on this issue. And I'm pretty sure it will be resolved by changung this RM generation to a legacy product. :thumbdown:

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What i don't understand is, why no one from the US sue's them. They advertised a product with features which they never integrated. Should be easy for US Citizens...
If they would at least offer a new interface card for the RM32 to enable AVB... but no they simply don't want to. I personally will not buy any Presonus equipment any longer.
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by wahlerstudios on Mon Feb 12, 2018 4:50 pm
Instead of trying to figure out what we will not get, we should concentrate on features, bug fixes and improvements, that are realistic to expect in a reasonable time ("soon"...). In this thread I try to get a list of all that together. Please check and add to it, what you feel is missing.

If it comes to the legendary not kept promises, this usually and first of all means "recording over AVB". As you know this feature is now available with AVB II, but with a very unpleasant restriction: It does not work in any of the network modes and only Apple is offering AVB functionality for their computers. The way that Apple has implemented AVB in their computers, has made it impossible to use AVB in a network surrounding. If you have a Series III FOH mixer and a digital stagebox/monitor mixer and want to "record over AVB", it's simply not possible!

So, to me this whole AVB recording thing does not make sense at all - for any of the AVB versions and mixer families. For AI mixers recording over network is possible with Dante or with a second (cascaded) RM mixer placed at FOH. Or you use the remote features and leave the computer on stage, which is not a perfect solution, but it does work. It depends so much on what you want to do.

We will need to accept that AVB I and AVB II can not talk to each other, so ideas like replacing the option card and "upgrade" the "old" stuff simply will not come true. You have to decide if the AI family can still cope your needs or if you really NEED the new (or other) stuff. It is never "nice" to use equipment, that soon will be called "legacy", but if it still makes a good job, why change and waste money...?

There are alternatives and it's always worth to compare products of different brands. There are new products coming to the market - and there is a need for new ideas. Nobody is "married" to a specific brand. Do, what is best for you and what keeps the value of your investment.

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by lancelyons on Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:20 pm

I was wondering about the Dante option

‘We're also planning to offer some promotions on Dante option cards for those who can address their needs by going that route. I'm trying to finalize those deals now so we can roll them out ASAP. Once they are rolled out, registered users will get an email about it and I'll also post it here.’

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