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PreSonus has unveiled the new 16.0.2 USB mixer! New USB format. Details here >>>

https://www.presonus.com/products/StudioLive-16.0.2-USB

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by sjc193 on Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:10 pm
No Ethernet to connect a router, so I assume you need a computer to run it remotely with an iPad just like the old classic FW mixers did. Ugh.

If I wanted a mixer this small, it would be for quick little show setups where I don't want to load the rack up a flight of stairs, no computer needed would be important to me. Not all shows need recorded. But remote control is important.

Guess I'm still waiting on an RM8. . .

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by Friedhelm on Sun Jul 16, 2017 1:45 pm
sjc193 wrote
Guess I'm still waiting on an RM8. . .

Steve



...and a cs8 would be lovey,too

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by wahlerstudios on Mon Jul 17, 2017 5:35 am
I am dreaming of a CS24AI with more encoders for the fat channel equalizer and 4 dedicated faders for DCA groups... ;-)

Well, we all know that the CS controller follows the footprint of the RM mixers, which is always 32 inputs and 16 aux. But there are different configurations. The smallest configuration is 16/8, the biggest is 64/16 and the configurations are called the "StudioLive AVB 16/32/48/64AI Mix Systems". The CS18AI is using the physical housing of a SL 16.4.2/AI, so a CS26AI and a CS34AI based on the other two AI mixer housings are imaginable. But I don't think that PreSonus is looking for "inhouse competitors" to their flagship SL series III, so let's face reality, which is interesting enough. Reality is an "old" mixer (obviously the best selling Presonus mixer ever), that seems to have undergone a complete inside change. As I understand it FireWire has been fully replaced by USB, which means

1) ...the use of UC Surface 2.x/QMix-UC instead of Virtual StudioLive/StudioLive Remote/Q-Mix

2) ...the replacement of a Ethernet/Remote control connector by USB, probably using the ethernet port of the connected computer

3) ...a 18x16 interface (USB) for Capture multirack recording instead of 16x16 (FireWire)

4) ...no Smaart functionality (RTA, Spectra, room wizzard) any longer, because the FireWire connection is missing...? Does Smaart work over USB? What kind of RTA are the 16.0.2 USB mixers using?

The product description says that there is full Smaart available, so time will tell. It just made my thoughts go round. If it is now possible to replace FireWire by USB and be able to use all features of Smaart and Capture, when will the AI family (SL, RM, CS) benefit from this? Is there a radical technology change ahead and a MK II for the AI family?

USB replaces FireWire. This is what the descriptions say. Or am I wrong?

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by sjc193 on Mon Jul 17, 2017 6:38 am
Friedhelm wrote
sjc193 wrote
Guess I'm still waiting on an RM8. . .

Steve



...and a cs8 would be lovey,too


I know, even if the FaderPort 8 would drive UC Surface on a PC via USB it would be cool.

StudioLive RM32AI
Rackmount Windows 8.1 PC Quad core 8G ram
ASUS RT-N66U Dual Band Router
IPad2, IPad Air 2, Studio One 3 Pro, 1 DBX Driverack 260
2 QSC KW 153's, 2 Turbosound TMS-1's
2 OHM MR450D Subs with Kilomax 18inch drivers
4 EV ZLX-12P's, 2 Yamaha S115V's
4 Behringer EP2500 amps, 1 QSC Amp
10 58/57 mics, 1 AT2020, 2 AT2021, 1 beta52 kick mic
2 e609, 2 Radial J48 DI's
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by wahlerstudios on Mon Jul 24, 2017 1:36 pm
Time has told... The description was updated. Smaart (RTA, Spectra, Room Wizzard) is not mentioned any longer, the new product obviously has no RTA functionality at all. At least I don't read anything about RTA any more.

Still a mystery is this sentence: "Mix wirelessly or over a wired network from anywhere using UC Surface touch-control software for Mac, Windows, Android™, and iPad®. Control individual monitor mixes onstage with QMix®-UC for iPhone®/iPod® touch and Android™." How can this work, when the mixer has no network connectivity at all?

The SL 16.0.2 USB is not shipping yet, so probably there are things still in development.

We will see...

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by matthewgorman on Tue Jul 25, 2017 9:14 am
How can this work, when the mixer has no network connectivity at all?


It will connect through the PC/Mac on the network, similar to the Studio 192.

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by matthewseymour on Sun Jul 30, 2017 2:13 pm
This is really poor.

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