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I have a StudioLive 16.0.2 that seems to be dying. I need to weigh repair options against replacement. Replacing it with a new 16.0.2 seems to cost more than what I paid originally, which doesn't seem right for technology several years old.

What other boards have:

1) at least 12 mic preamps with phantom
2) record at least 12 channels pre-fader to computer or SD card
3) remote control (to be able to mix from FOH using an iPad)
4) EQ, compressor, and noise gate on each channel (noise gate not essential, but I just did an outdoor gig in the wind where it was really nice).
5) Save scenes and recall them including faders (don't need motorized faders, the "locate" function in the 16.0.2 works well for me.)

I thought Mackie had something, but can't find anything, the Onyxs don't have noise gates. I'm considering the StudioLive Ai or version 3, but they are quite expensive.

(If I'm willing to forgoe physical faders the the Behringer X Air XR18 or QSC Toucmix-16 might work, the touchmix can supposedly record every channel without needing a computer. But I'm not sure I'm ready to give up my faders and knobs.)
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by sjc193 on Sun Jun 25, 2017 5:32 pm
I can recommend the RM16, I have a rm32 and it's been far more sturdy and reliable than my old classic 16.4.2 (which went to the shop 3 times, still rolling at the local bar who bought it though). Not a lot of hardware issues reported either. The old ones (no line inputs) may be fairly cheap.

The RM sounds even better and has everything! 4 fully parametric eq's per channel, much higher level than the 16.0.2. And you already have everything you need to make it work.

Any questions ask away

Steve

StudioLive RM32AI
Rackmount Windows 8.1 PC Quad core 8G ram
ASUS RT-N66U Dual Band Router
IPad2, IPad Air 2, Studio One 3 Pro, 1 DBX Driverack 260
2 QSC KW 153's, 2 Turbosound TMS-1's
2 OHM MR450D Subs with Kilomax 18inch drivers
4 EV ZLX-12P's, 2 Yamaha S115V's
4 Behringer EP2500 amps, 1 QSC Amp
10 58/57 mics, 1 AT2020, 2 AT2021, 1 beta52 kick mic
2 e609, 2 Radial J48 DI's
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by wahlerstudios on Mon Jun 26, 2017 1:09 pm
The legacy SL 16.0.2 has been a unique product for many years and it is still sold everywhere. And PreSonus is interested to keep this product alive: Universal Control 1.7.5 for PC is in public beta testing now. But of course the SL 16.0.2 has got "old" in many ways and indeed, there are alternatives. It's always good to know what is available on the market. There are not too many available with faders and some mixers are sold under different names or brands, so don't get confused. ;-)

Several faders/layers:
http://www.studiomaster.com/product-view/digilive16-16-input-16-bus/141
http://www.soundking.com/mixer1/mixing-console-dm20.html
http://www.phonic.com/mixers/digital-mixers/is16

One fader:
http://www.monacor.com/en-cn/img/products/audio/mixers-and-audio-players/mixers/dmix-20
http://www.ashly.com/products/digimix24

It really would be great if PreSonus would release a Series III StudioLive 8 or StudioLive 12. The SL 16.0.2 has deserved its retirement.

One remark about the RM/RML16AI: If you need faders, just add a CS18AI controller. One day an iPad is enough for the mix, the other day you need faders - I really enjoy the flexibility of this expandable system. I don't want a "mixing board" any longer.

SL16 | 32R | 16R | 16M

Apple routers | iPads | PreSonus SW5E & Motu AVB switches | Alesis iO Dock with AudioTools' Smaart RTA & Spectograph extension |
Yamaha S112, S15e, S10e, SM12, SM10 | Galaxy Audio Hot Spots | Mac mini | Lenovo Laptop | Studio One Pro 3.5.6
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by samfisher1 on Tue Jun 27, 2017 4:12 am
I'd second the recommendation of the RM16. I'm delighted with mine. I did look at some cheaper alternatives but am so glad I paid the extra as the RM features still come into their own. I actually find that I am using at least 8 of the digital channels at most gigs - this is because I'm utilising the midi io capability of another interface, and running it through Main Stage. It means that I can set up the midi keyboar patches as separate channels.

Sam
Desperately amateur, hopelessly passionate.

MacBook Pro - Mid 2017 - OS 10.13.6
3.1GHz Intel Core i7
16GB 2133 MHz RAM

StudioLive RML16AI
UC 2.8.0.48221 (Jul 5 2018)
UC Surface 2.9.0.49213 (Sep 10 2018)
Firmware v13731

Focusrite Scarlett 18i20
Apple MainStage 3.0
IO configured as Aggregate Device

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