This is sort of a heads-up and/or bug report, since I found a workaround, but it might be of interest to others.
I have the ValhallaRoom reverb plugin set up as one of several inserts on my lead guitar track, and I noticed that it was producing sound even when there was no event data on that track at all. It seems to be receiving a signal that is a very noisy, distorted version of some of the preceding tracks. (At first I thought I had somehow activated the Console Shaper and caused the crosstalk that way, but that wasn't enabled. I switched it on to check, and the crosstalk there sounded very deliberate, unlike what I was hearing.) When I switched the lead guitar channel from Mono-Summed to Stereo mode, the noise went away entirely. I never had this problem with ValhallaRoom when using it with Sonar. However, the Blackhole reverb plugin (and all the others I've tried) seem to work okay on S1. So there is some strange interaction between the two pieces of software, apparently. I found this thread on the old forum - http://forumsarchive.presonus.com/posts/list/37031.page - and it seems to have very similiar behaviour. ("Audio verb from track one is somehow coming through Valhalla AU on track 2") That user was using OsX 10.6.8, Valhalla Room AU, Studio One 2.5.1, whereas I have Windows 8.1, Valhalla Room VST, and Studio One 3.3.4.41933. Another glitch that is perhaps related is that sometimes, when I would export the whole song, the process would report clipping of over 300dB. This went away if I disabled that track, disabled ValhallaRoom, or switched it to stereo. |
Valhalla plugins do not like being used as inserts on mono channels. They're not alone, the Relab VSR-S24 and a few other stereo plugins I have do the same. If you want to use it as an insert, record a stereo channel. Otherwise, I suggest using it on a send, which is the more traditional approach anyway.
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Putting it on a send is all well and good if you want it to be at the end of the chain, but sometimes that's not really what you want. (Also, I need it in an FX Chain.)
Sean is aware of this problem, as it's been posted on his forum over at KVR a few times. It seems to be Studio One specific. Valhalla is fine on mono channels in other DAWs, it seems. |
Fair enough. I'd still put in a bug report to both Valhalla AND Presonus - it's always better to go that way (I say that as a guy that has developed products his entire working life). As a vendor, It's a lot harder to say that you're not going to fix a reproducible problem from a paying customer.
But I can understand if you would just work around it. And, BTW, thanks for bringing it up - so I know what to avoid (or report...) |
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