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S1 3.1 just crashes without any error or statement if you try loading an older project which contains iLok2 plugins.

You can try to re-create a crash within S1 version 3.1:

1. Create new Song
2. Put in some Soundtoys Plugins (because they need ilok2) i tried LittleAlterBoy
3. Crash
4. If not Crashed
5. Try Save As

You can also try VirtualTapeMachine from Slate Digital or VirtualMixRack
I experienced the same with these plugins!

And if you open older project with one of these plugins in it,
S1 will crash!

Hope this comes to a dev soon and they give us a hotfix!!

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by jpettit on Tue Oct 06, 2015 1:09 pm
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See my post.
Do you have any of my plugins? if so we can start to narrow it down.

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by overcoat on Tue Oct 06, 2015 6:30 pm
renedale wroteS1 3.1 just crashes without any error or statement if you try loading an older project which contains iLok2 plugins.

You can try to re-create a crash within S1 version 3.1:

1. Create new Song
2. Put in some Soundtoys Plugins (because they need ilok2) i tried LittleAlterBoy
3. Crash
4. If not Crashed
5. Try Save As

You can also try VirtualTapeMachine from Slate Digital or VirtualMixRack
I experienced the same with these plugins!

And if you open older project with one of these plugins in it,
S1 will crash!

Hope this comes to a dev soon and they give us a hotfix!!


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by jpettit on Tue Oct 06, 2015 6:37 pm
That is what is interesting. There is a pattern of iLok2 but not all are seeing it and not with all plugins.
Have not noticed if it is win OS related, 32/64 bit or just a few plugins.

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by Mac Money on Tue Oct 06, 2015 8:55 pm
Yea it crashed on my Oxford plugins too

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by jpettit on Tue Oct 06, 2015 9:01 pm
Mac Money wroteYea it crashed on my Oxford plugins too

Details? ILok2?

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by Mac Money on Tue Oct 06, 2015 10:03 pm
jpettit wrote
Mac Money wroteYea it crashed on my Oxford plugins too

Details? ILok2?

Yes iLok2 with latest drivers

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by jjpscott01 on Tue Oct 06, 2015 11:03 pm
Instant crashes here too on startup. This is actually the first time ive ever had problems with crashes in several years of using S1 Pro. I am on windows10 64bit and yes i have an Ilok2 with updated drivers as well running slate, Kush, and others. Hope we can figure this out soon
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by renedale on Wed Oct 07, 2015 12:16 am
seems like most of the "crashing" users are on windows 10 64 bit....

And maybe it has something to do with vst3/2

My crashing plugins are all VST2

I read of some users who use VST3 which do not crash.

So maybe Win10 64bit + VST2 ilok Plugins = Crash?

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by muddavugga on Wed Oct 07, 2015 4:18 am
Yep. Me too! Pissed!! I have a new song and now I can't bleep open it! Argh!!!!!
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by scottyo7 on Wed Oct 07, 2015 6:03 pm
Yep... I noticed all posts (with a signature)* here with the issue are on Win10.
Win10 automatically pushes updates to your PC.
So what worked yesterday may not today. :(

Here's one method (from Microsoft) on how to block updates and to view what has been updated in order to troubleshoot what may be the culprit.
http://www.howtogeek.com/223864/how-to-uninstall-and-block-updates-and-drivers-on-windows-10/

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by martinlachaine on Wed Oct 07, 2015 6:17 pm
Crashed for me too, on Windows 10 64 bit. Re-installed 3.0.1 and doesn't crash anymore.
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by Lawrence on Wed Oct 07, 2015 6:26 pm
Is anyone posting (or even getting) crash reports? I don't see any linked here.

If so, attach them (as file attachments don't paste the text) so they can look at them. In Windows they're in the AppData Studio One folder.

Also, have any of you tried the Win 8 compatibility mode thing the other guy mentioned above? If it runs that way at least you'll be able to use it until they track the issue down. I'd try everything really, run as admin (the installer also) whatever.

But yeah, a single sentence saying "Crashes here too." won't help very much. Post crash reports.
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by jpettit on Wed Oct 07, 2015 8:02 pm
Lawrence wroteIs anyone posting (or even getting) crash reports? I don't see any linked here.

If so, attach them (as file attachments don't paste the text) so they can look at them. In Windows they're in the AppData Studio One folder.

Also, have any of you tried the Win 8 compatibility mode thing the other guy mentioned above? If it runs that way at least you'll be able to use it until they track the issue down. I'd try everything really, run as admin (the installer also) whatever.

But yeah, a single sentence saying "Crashes here too." won't help very much. Post crash reports.

Ditto what Lawrence said.
The developers will at least need to know:
OS and 32/64 bit: ?
VST2 or VST3 ?
What iLok 2 version you are running ( iLok 2 license manager Help/About (latest = 2.5.2)
The exact version of the plugin that is hanging ?
Attached S1 .dmp files
1) Click on S1 help menu
2) Click setting files
3) Click up on level to Presonus and you will see .dmp file from issues.
4) Attach one if the datetime stamp is associated with the crash.

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by renedale on Thu Oct 08, 2015 12:21 pm
So, I think its safe to say - the following requirements in combination leads to the plugin crashes

-) Windows 10 64 Bit
-) iLok plugins in VST2 (VST3 works fine)
-) Studio One 3.1 (3.0.2 worked fine - no changes made to whether the plugins or ilok drivers)

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by Sing4LTS on Thu Oct 08, 2015 2:13 pm
Am I safe to upgrade if I'm running my Slate subscription plugins in VST3 format? My understanding is that there is some added touchscreen functionality in this release, and I'd really like to take advantage of those, but not if it means I lose access to my Slate VST3's.
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by renedale on Thu Oct 08, 2015 3:08 pm
Sing4LTS wroteAm I safe to upgrade if I'm running my Slate subscription plugins in VST3 format? My understanding is that there is some added touchscreen functionality in this release, and I'd really like to take advantage of those, but not if it means I lose access to my Slate VST3's.


VST3 seems to work fine with S1 3.1!

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by BM Grabber on Thu Oct 08, 2015 4:09 pm
Some Vst3 do NOT work (McDSP, Softube, SSL Duende) here.
All Vst2 tested do NOT work.

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by brettgoodkin on Thu Oct 08, 2015 4:47 pm
So.... Has anybody reported to Presonus with a ticket?

I did and it was at first, "yeah, you have to take that up with the plugin dev [Sly-Fi/Kush]"... then I got another guy who basically said, "it works over here..." But, he didn't confirm that we're on the same platform...

So... I haven't gotten any follow up from Presonus... I reverted to 3.01.

I wish the company would at least acknowledge that there may be an issue with the update....

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by jpettit on Thu Oct 08, 2015 4:58 pm
I did in the first hour or so of the release.
They know there is an issue around possibly iLok2 but there is no clear repeatable steps.
People have deduced Win 10 64 bit VST2 and a handful of plugins.
However I am on Win 10 64 bit with iLoK2 and my plugins run.

More data needs to be gathered.
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