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I love this song.

The drums are mixed too loud. Guitars are too soft. Bass is nice and tight.
Sounds like a drummer mixed it.

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A drummer did mix it! I bet really LOUD too. The louder the payback, you start compressing naturally the sound coming out of the speakers so the softer parts come up and loudest parts get limited.
Then, if you bring the level down, you start to hear more realistically. Not sure that happened when they mixed this song!

In this case, this was such a huge song for Fleetwood Mac. Whenever it played on the radio, the radio also compressed the heck out of music so it got squashed again. So the only way you would really now how it really sounded is getting the album or CD and play it on a decent system. Then these kinds of things become evident.

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by scottyo7 on Tue Jul 11, 2017 6:19 pm
Well this is a subjective issue for sure. ;)
I've heard this song a 1000 times and never thought it had mixing issues.
So this attached audio is from your CD?

I think the drums are fine but I'm a hard rock guy and always love the drums being prominent - I even do so in my Ambient Synth Pop stuff.
The bass drives the song well and the vocals are on top of it all. The backing keys are there but subdued - another feature I [i]usually[/i] did on my rock stuff.

Now... "The Chain" (from YouTube) is a different animal. The vocals are lower and the guitar (riff) seems to carry the song, bass and drums give it the right amount of drive .

This is probably also dependent on how much hearing we may have lost. :lol:

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by Bbd on Wed Jul 12, 2017 1:24 am
The vid is from YouTube. Just a random pick but I own their albums and it is a good copy for what I wanted to share.
I am putting this up just to show how some productions made it all the way to #1 when in today's world might get some crits for this or that. That's what I love about music production thru the ages. As an art form, really anything goes. Technically, there is much to learn from all the different approaches.
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by scottyo7 on Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:50 am
"Exactly" to everything you said Bbd. :)
Many mix styles work and sound good.

One thing I found quite strange was that on some Beatles songs the drums were panned hard right or left... I'd never think of trying that 'now' with how and what I've learned. ;)

And...
I plan to post a song on here tomorrow for any input that anyone has (I can take it).
Then, barring any fixes due to said input over the next few days, it's going up to my SoundCloud page. 8-)

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