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Introducing a new revised update to bring more life to the track, 'The Hidden Labyrinth'.

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by scottyo7 on Tue Jan 31, 2017 6:35 pm
Overall I really like your song here. ;)
I've been listening to this style a lot lately and messing with it myself. 8-)

To me - there is too much high end overall. :roll:
A few of the instruments (clap/snare, some of the synths, etc) have their domain up there already and seem to have extra highs there too.

In comparison to Ryan Farrish and Tycho, they have either compressed or used notch filters as their stuff is smoother... similar to using a pop screen on vocals vs. not having it.

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by scottmoncrieff on Tue Jan 31, 2017 8:42 pm
scottyo7 wroteOverall I really like your song here. ;)
I've been listening to this style a lot lately and messing with it myself. 8-)

To me - there is too much high end overall. :roll:
A few of the instruments (clap/snare, some of the synths, etc) have their domain up there already and seem to have extra highs there too.

In comparison to Ryan Farrish and Tycho, they have either compressed or used notch filters as their stuff is smoother... similar to using a pop screen on vocals vs. not having it.


Yeah, the high frequencies were increased in this version as well as the low end and the overall volume, the very top frequencies were shelved off however, so it's something I was aware of before bouncing down. My music does tend to be on the higher frequency side, which is something I don't mind as Iike to hear every little detail :). There is added compression in this version too as well as EQ. I don't mind experimenting with my tracks after they are compositionally finished as you learn techniques in sculpting how it sounds.

I'll experiment with some additional frequency filtering techniques on the side lines whilst I work on anther track. Currently I have two other larger 7 to 8 minute + tracks finished which I've yet to post on here, I just need to create the cover artwork for them.

Interestingly, I've never hear of either of the artists you mentioned before, but I'll look at using some notch filters on this track.

Cheers :)

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by garryknight on Wed Feb 01, 2017 1:19 pm
Nice and complex. An interesting listen. I have to echo the comments about high frequencies, though. At my normal listening volume on AKG headphones, it started to hurt my ears a short while after the beginning. I'm a bit sensitive in the mid-highs, though, with or without headphones. It held my interest all the way through, and you wouldn't have to pay me to listen to it again ;)

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by scottmoncrieff on Wed Feb 01, 2017 2:01 pm
garryknight wroteNice and complex. An interesting listen. I have to echo the comments about high frequencies, though. At my normal listening volume on AKG headphones, it started to hurt my ears a short while after the beginning. I'm a bit sensitive in the mid-highs, though, with or without headphones. It held my interest all the way through, and you wouldn't have to pay me to listen to it again ;)


Yeah, I'd probably agree with that, it's rather sizzling hot at higher volumes, so probably need to cool it down a bit with some cold filter plugin coolants. I was exploring my plugin collection last night to see what would do the job. I'll probably give it a couple of days before I find one suitable and only then post an update to this track. Often I'll stumble on something or a combination of things whilst working on another piece of work I created sometime before.

I've listened to the track god knows how many times and I still like it, so it's probably worth the perseverance in getting the frequencies right, as interesting as it is to explore the possible frequency ranges :D

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by jpsbuk on Wed Feb 01, 2017 3:31 pm
I'm not quite sure what this is doing to my ears :)

I'm a headphone listener and at first I had the same problem as Garry and was forced to turn the volume down. After a minute or so though I got the urge to turn it up again and quite enjoyed the experience. Hard to explain really but those high frequencies combined with the improved bass levels seemed to trigger something in my head and it all suddenly clicked.

I can see how if you listened to this repeatedly (as you would in mix) that you would really get hooked on it. I think somehow on a second run through your ears sort of naturally dull the highs and it sounds better.

My head says "kill the highs", my heart says "love it" .. bizarre effect! :shock:

I definitely prefer this version - thanks for sharing.

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by garryknight on Wed Feb 01, 2017 6:13 pm
jpsbuk wroteMy head says "kill the highs", my heart says "love it"


That was by Mumford and Sons, wasn't it? ;)

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by kennethkovach on Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:37 pm
Very nice song, I like the interplay between the different instruments.

I did not have a problem with the high end, but I was browsing the forums on my iPad, so I will have to check out the song on better speakers.

And very nice artwork, very fitting for the song!

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by scottmoncrieff on Tue Feb 14, 2017 6:08 pm
jpsbuk wroteI'm not quite sure what this is doing to my ears :)

I'm a headphone listener and at first I had the same problem as Garry and was forced to turn the volume down. After a minute or so though I got the urge to turn it up again and quite enjoyed the experience. Hard to explain really but those high frequencies combined with the improved bass levels seemed to trigger something in my head and it all suddenly clicked.

I can see how if you listened to this repeatedly (as you would in mix) that you would really get hooked on it. I think somehow on a second run through your ears sort of naturally dull the highs and it sounds better.

My head says "kill the highs", my heart says "love it" .. bizarre effect! :shock:

I definitely prefer this version - thanks for sharing.


It's a new genre of music I've developed, I think I'll call it 'Highintrancity' :D

(Forgot, I was supposed to post a less high frequency version wasn't I) :twisted:

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by scottmoncrieff on Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:15 pm
kennethkovach wroteVery nice song, I like the interplay between the different instruments.

I did not have a problem with the high end, but I was browsing the forums on my iPad, so I will have to check out the song on better speakers.

And very nice artwork, very fitting for the song!



Thanks Kenneth, ( that's my older brothers name also :-) ). But yeah... the interplay aspect was something that I thought would be cool to play around with, like the syn energy of performers on stage communicating vie the sound they make.

For the artwork I had thoughts on making a real ice palace, but thought a combination of irregular shapes and atmospheric effects and fades would be just as effective and take much less time. The artwork was created with a combination of Pixologics ZBrush for the shapes, which were imported into Cinema 4D R11.5 where they were textured and finally composited into Photoshop CS6.

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