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Can I Simply Split My Ethernet To Two Ports?

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 2:31 am
by jimdobbs
Hi All

I'm new to using the RM32ai and have a question regarding connecting a Win7 laptop.

I have installed a TP-Link wireless router in the rack with the desk and it works faultlessly every time and connects to my iPads and also wireless to a Win7 laptop running the Surface software.

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As a backup in case of losing WiFi i want to connect the laptop to the Ethernet port.
I plug in a cable to the router and the laptop is fine with that and sees the desk no problem.

If I turn off the router I lose both WiFi and the hard-wired connection. I assume I need to take the hard-wire connection from before the router.

Can I just use a simple Y-Splitter to create 2 ports from the RM32 or do I need a 'proper' hub.

How does everyone else do this please?

Re: Can I Simply Split My Ethernet To Two Ports?

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 2:52 am
by seanbrown2
if all you want is control , just plug you Ethernet cord directly into the RM . if you want to control and record use firewire no Ethernet required when firewire is connected

Re: Can I Simply Split My Ethernet To Two Ports?

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 3:25 am
by jimdobbs
Thanks for your reply. At this moment I'm not bothered about recording as I have no computer capable with high enough specifications.

I'm simply wanting to use an iPad and/or laptop to control from FOH over wifi.

In addition I want the security of a wired laptop on stage near to the RM32 just in case I lose control over wifi wether it's because of a router problem or the iPad is flat or damaged or stolen!

I currently have the back-up laptop plugged into the wifi router and it all works fine. However, If the router power supply were to fail it knocks out both systems. I'm thinking that I need to connect the wired backup before the wireless router by using a splitter or a hub of some sort.

Just wanting practical advice on the best way to do this.

Re: Can I Simply Split My Ethernet To Two Ports?

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 7:50 am
by Karyn
You could have a rack mount switch mounted in the same rack as the RM32 which you connect ALL the ethernet into, including the WiFi router. Make it one of the Netgear switches that PreSonus have tested for AVB and you'll be ready for network audio as well.

Re: Can I Simply Split My Ethernet To Two Ports?

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 8:26 pm
by jimdobbs
Thanks Kayrn

It seems I just need to get myself to Maplins or PC World then!

It's hard to find specific information on this forum I find but I'll look deeper for the recommended hardware as you suggest.

Many thanks.

Re: Can I Simply Split My Ethernet To Two Ports?

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 12:28 am
by Karyn
Jim, the info you want is on page 2 of this pdf http://blog.presonus.com/wp-content/upl ... ve_AVB.pdf

note:
The Motu is a desktop 5 port switch and very expensive (for a 5 port switch)
The Netgear switches are much more affordable, BUT the AVB functionality is an extra you have to install.

I'm going with Netgear.

Re: Can I Simply Split My Ethernet To Two Ports?

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 9:10 pm
by fromnaija
I went with Netgear and even bought the AVB license. However, it appears PreSonus have certified only the MOTU and the Extreme Networks switches for AVB.

I will be testing my AVB setup tomorrow with the Netgear switch and see if I can figure out what the issues are. If not, I will wait until Dante cards are released before venturing into network audio as I do not want to purchase another AVB switch.

Re: Can I Simply Split My Ethernet To Two Ports?

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 4:22 am
by Karyn
Which Netgear switch did you get? In the AVB option card PDF I linked to above they specifically state that they've qualified 3 Netgear switches...

If they're lying that's just ....

Re: Can I Simply Split My Ethernet To Two Ports?

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2015 12:03 am
by fromnaija
I got the NETGEAR GS716Tv3. It does not pass AVB audio but I was able to remote control the RM from my SL. I have a ticket opened to NETGEAR and they are having me try different configurations but none has worked so far.
The answer I got from PreSonus is that they are currently working with NETGEAR to resolve this issue.
On the other hand, because I had to demo AVB to a client, I went and got the MOTU switch which worked flawlessly and truly plug and play.

Re: Can I Simply Split My Ethernet To Two Ports?

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2015 11:36 am
by tjitzeweststrate
Any progress on the Netgear switch?
I hope it saves me buying the MOTU switch..

Re: Can I Simply Split My Ethernet To Two Ports?

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2015 12:19 pm
by matthewgorman
There seems to be some mis information in here. As of this post, AVB audio is not even available for the RM/AI mixers. Current AVB is for control only, however, you don't need AVB for just control in a 1 mixer setup. If you are running the RM as a stage box for an AI mixer, then you will need avb.

Re: Can I Simply Split My Ethernet To Two Ports?

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2015 8:31 pm
by Karyn
matthewgorman wroteThere seems to be some mis information in here. As of this post, AVB audio is not even available for the RM/AI mixers. Current AVB is for control only, however, you don't need AVB for just control in a 1 mixer setup. If you are running the RM as a stage box for an AI mixer, then you will need avb.

Oh come on Matt. Do you even know what AVB is?

AVB = Audio Video Bridging. To say "Current AVB is for control only" doesn't even make sense. You may as well be saying "Current wallpaper is for donuts only".

AVB only carries the audio packets NOT the control packets, and it IS available for both consoles and RM boxes. The stagebox function relies on it. Control data is sent in standard Ethernet packets, NOT the AVB extensions to Ethernet.

To control a Console/RM paired as stagebox from UC Surface requires either Wifi dongles, Firewire connection or an AVB compatible network switch to insert in the link so a WiFi router/access point can be added. The Motu switch works, the published literature says certain Netgear switches also work, but we were told a few weeks ago that actually... they don't... but it's being worked on...

So... any new news on the Netgear switches??

Re: Can I Simply Split My Ethernet To Two Ports?

Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2015 1:37 pm
by ekuykendall
Bump!