Discuss Progression - tab, notation & songwriting for guitar, bass, keyboards and drums
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Hey anybody using this?

Looks like it works pretty good in the demo video.
Progression 2.0 is in the SW demo vid.. also on UTube.

Apparently It comes with Progression 2.0
Already bought Progression 3 so no big whoop there.

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by RecL2R on Sat Nov 29, 2014 9:04 am
OK, I got the Triple Play.. n' for us Guitar Players it's absolutely the best/fastest way to get a complete score done. It's awesome! :ugeek:

N' better than that... it translates MY TOUCH on the guitar to the piano/keyboard. Truly incredible!

So, it's working perfectly in the Triple Play application and anywhere you call the plug-in version of the Triple Play app. e.g. StudioOne.

However, not seeing the same accuracy communicated to the fretboard in Progression.
One other thing to try.. but might need some support.

More later...

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by RecL2R on Sat Nov 29, 2014 10:25 am
K', I have one problem with the Fishman Triple Play and Progression.

Everything I play gets transposed to the first position. No matter the config...

e.g.
Play anything down in the 7th position => notes are displayed in the first position.

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by RecL2R on Thu Dec 04, 2014 1:31 pm
K', here's the inside skinny.

Short answer:
It's a bug in the Progression Fretboard display and Presonus is aware.
Fingers firmly crossed it'll get fixed in the next release. :ugeek:


Long answer:
Worked the issue with both Fishman and Presonus. Got good, engaged responses from both parties.
This is very good.. glad to see it. :D

Both sides agree that if you record to Tab, it'll work.
Haven't tested that yet myself, but will shortly.

If it Tabs good.. I can't complain too much.
If the actual Notation is wrong.. that's a little bit more of an issue for me, but not a huge one.

More good news is, the guys at Fishman think it might be a straight forward fix in Progression.
So it sounds like the Triple Play is already sending all the required data.

But we gotta give the Devs at Presonus some space to check it out.
Sometimes, you just never know what it's like in there. :shock:

The best news is that it appears to record accurately in StudioOne.
This I've proved for myself.

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by Skip Jones on Thu Dec 04, 2014 8:21 pm
Hey! Myself and a couple of other moderators jumped for the Fishman/PreSonus bundle after listening to Burr Johnson demo it at PreSonusPhere. Awesome tracking and great software. Sure it has a few rough edges but nothing starts out perfect. I don't work for either PreSonus or Fishman but if I was a bettin' man I would say good thangs are a coming!

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by RecL2R on Sat Dec 06, 2014 9:20 am
Cool, thanks!
All good stuff.

Yea the demo vids make it look and sound great. (n' I agree, it is).

One thing I've noticed in the vids, is the Fretboard display is always hidden and/or they're only playing in the first position. At least in all the vids I've seen.

So when recording (for now), I'll just hide the Fretboard display.
It's just really cool to see your fingering on the Fretboard echoed back at when playing.

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by iqemamxl on Fri Jan 09, 2015 10:02 pm
Hi everyone,

I'm trying to use the fretboard display on these programs for educational purposes- taking screen videos of scales in real time to help students. Having 2 issues that are messing with the vids, any help would be much appreciated!

1. In Progression, the "1st position" problem that seems to have been addressed here already. 'A' on the fifth fret of the low E string shows in the diagram as 'open A.' Etc. Hoping they fix this up soon!

2. In Tripleplay (stand alone and plug in) No "1st position problem-- it tracks well all the way up the neck, but the fretboard diagram is being glitchy and keeps flashing intermittently. Plenty of ram/ processing power in a 1 year old mac. Shouldn't be an issue of muscle.

Anyone else notice this on the fretboard in Tripleplay? Any ideas as to what it could be?


Again, not using either program for notation at the moment (still a Finale purist)-- just trying to screen cap the fretboards.

Thanks in advance!
-jm
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by enmqfxvy on Sun Jan 18, 2015 9:09 pm
I really hope that I am just missing a simple step, but after unboxing my Fishman Triple Play I am very disappointed with its lack of Notation capabilities that it was advertised for. My entire purpose of buying this product was to be able to notate my band's songs into sheet music faster for editing purposes, but after scouring the internet for hours and following the advice in this thread to the letter I am still stuck with everything that I play being notated in first position and am entirely frustrated. We play in Drop C tuning, I'm not really sure if that matters. Inside of Progression I have the following Staff Settings:
Under the Instrument tab -
Notion Instruments>>Guitars/Basses>>Electric Guitar
Under the Notation/tab tab -
Show Tablature
Voice Stem mode>> Separate up/down
Tablature Tuning>> C2 G2 C3 F3 A3 D4
Transposition>> C>>One Octave>>Lower
Sequencer staff is unchecked

I have also tried changing the Instrument tab to:
VST Instruments>>Triple Play>>Triple Play

and have had no luck with that either. Everything is continually pushed to first position, even with the fretboard hidden away from view.

How in blazes am I supposed to get this thing to notate properly? I've got bandmates collectively writing 2 or more songs a day and I'm spending all of my time inputting them into sheet music and not having much time to polish those songs into Gems or work on my own music. HELP!
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by eric.hunziker on Sun Mar 22, 2015 4:18 am
I'm having the same problem, with the notation in only the first position.
Did Presonus tell you when they address the Problem?
Best Regards
e

Tomasino wroteK', here's the inside skinny.

Short answer:
It's a bug in the Progression Fretboard display and Presonus is aware.
Fingers firmly crossed it'll get fixed in the next release. :ugeek:


Long answer:
Worked the issue with both Fishman and Presonus. Got good, engaged responses from both parties.
This is very good.. glad to see it. :D

Both sides agree that if you record to Tab, it'll work.
Haven't tested that yet myself, but will shortly.

If it Tabs good.. I can't complain too much.
If the actual Notation is wrong.. that's a little bit more of an issue for me, but not a huge one.

More good news is, the guys at Fishman think it might be a straight forward fix in Progression.
So it sounds like the Triple Play is already sending all the required data.

But we gotta give the Devs at Presonus some space to check it out.
Sometimes, you just never know what it's like in there. :shock:

The best news is that it appears to record accurately in StudioOne.
This I've proved for myself.
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by tmoll150 on Tue Jun 30, 2015 2:58 pm
Any more info available on this? I just started trying to use this product, and it sure seems unfriendly. Looking through this forum, it seems that support is pretty meager too.
I also have a severe latency issue with the Triple Play to the point if it being essentially useless. There is no latency issue when using TP alone - only when using it with Progression. How does one select a different instrument when recording? The TAB is messed up anyway, so maybe it doesn't matter.
Is this simply a useless product with the Triple Play??
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by dcm_guitar on Wed Apr 06, 2016 8:27 pm
Just wanted to post on here in case anyone is considering using the TriplePlay and Progression as a solution to creating notation and/or tab.

DON'DO DO IT!!!!!

The TriplePlay works amazingly well. I can use it as a MIDI interface and play all sorts of soft synths. There really isn't a latency issue and the translation from guitar touch to other instruments works good enough. It's not great, but it is passable and as someone who is not a keyboard player it's a workable solution.

Progression is an unmitigated disaster. It sucks. It's horrible. It does not work well at all. I have huge latency issues with it even when setting the buffer to 64 samples. It's so bad as to make it unusable. The ability of Progression to translate playing to notation is so awful that Presonus should be ashamed of themselves for releasing this software. Seriously, it's so bad and so frustrating that anyone who approved this product and called it good enough to release should seriously question their career path.

I play fingerstyle guitar. If you want something to transcribe classical style playing forget Progression. It won't work. I can not stress enough how poor this software is.

Sorry to be so negative, but after spending hours on this software, reading the tutorials, watching YouTube videos, tweaking parameters it is a total failure.
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by PreSonuSupt2 on Fri Apr 08, 2016 8:15 am
If you are on a Mac, you need to go into Progression>Preferences>Audio and decrease your buffer size. This will get rid of your latency and create a better MIDI recording of your performance

If you are on a Windows machine, you need to decrease the ASIO buffer size in the control panel for your audio interface prior to opening Progression. If you do not have a professional audio interface that comes with an ASIO driver, you will want to download ASIO4all from asio4all.com. Once installed, you can go to File>Preferences>Audio and select asio4all as your ASIO driver. You will then see a little green play button in your startup tray to the left of your clock. You will want to double-click that and decrease your Audio buffer size there.
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by tobiaslieblein on Tue Jan 24, 2017 10:42 am
all that does not help ! :oops:


Progression cannot handle Triple Play data fast enough.
Even if played right in time, only the first few notes are recognized, while everything else is leading into chaos. The more complex, the more chaos.

Quantization like in Cubase would probably do a lot to this issue

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