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Re: Project: macOS Catalina ~ New World of Digital Music Production

Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 3:04 am
by Surf.Whammy
I did the update to macOS Catalina 15.2 on the 2012 MacBook Pro with no problems . . . :)

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Then I did the update to Studio One Professional (4.6.0.55605) with no problems, although the first attempt failed due to network slowness (timed-out or something); but the second attempt was successful; and again no problems . . .

[NOTE: The local ISP throughput has been a bit odd for the past week or so; and the download speed for the first attempt was in Mbps (megabits per second), while the download speed for the second attempt was MBps (megabytes per second); hence the inference that the problem was ISP related. I'm not certain what is happening, but sometimes it takes a while just to open Amazon.com. And it's not macOS Catalina 15.2 related, because it's also been happening on the Mac Pro (Early 2008) running macOS El Capitan (same ISP but different location about three blocks away) . . . ]

Once Studio One Professional was updated to the current version, I checked NOTION for updates and there were none; so the current version of NOTION is 6.5.470 and is 64-bits, as is Studio One Professional . . .

I repeated the basic ReWire MIDI experiment, and everything is working nicely in macOS Catalina 15.2 on the 2012 MacBook Pro . . .

Next I will do a SuperDuper! (Shirt Pocket) backup of the 2019 MacBook Pro; update it to macOS Catalina 15.2; update Studio One Professional; and then do the basic ReWire MIDI experiment, which I expect to have the same results . . .

KONTAKT 6 (NATIVE INSTRUMENTS)

On a related note, I upgraded to Kontakt 6 last year when Native Instruments had their 50-percent discount sale; and so far have installed it to the 2.8-GHz (8-core) Mac Pro (Early 2008) running macOS El Capitan . . .

I also did the Studio One Professional update, and after the update it shows Kontakt 6 as being "blacklisted" and does not verify Kontakt 6 or allow it to run . . .

NOTION (current version) is fine with Kontakt 6 and had no problems enabling it for use as a VSTi virtual instrument . . .

I have both versions of Kontakt (5 and the newer 6), so this is not a problem in the sound isolation studio . . .

The new version of Reason (Reason Studios, formerly the Propelerheads) drops support for ReWire, but it coexists with Reason 10, which supports ReWire; hence no problems for me . . .

Reason 11 has a Rack Extension or whatever that appears as a VSTi virtual instrument, so I expect Reason 11 to work but as a VSTi virtual instrument rather than a ReWire slave; but I need to do some experiments to verify this . . .

I like Reason, but for the most part I have used it in ReWire sessions that nobody probably ever does--Studio One Professional as ReWire host controller and both NOTION and Reason as ReWire slaves, where in addition to NOTION and Resaon playing Studio One Professional-hosted instruments, Studio One Professional and NOTION are playing Reason-hosted instruments . . .

The primary motivation for the Studio One Professional, NOTION, and Reason experiments was determining (a) whether it was possible and (b) exploring how insane the capabilities are . . .

ReWire MIDI with Studio One Professional and NOTION is straightforward and not so complex once you understand buses, routing, and so forth--essentially the way the digital applications are interconnected--but making it vastly complex by adding External MIDI and all that stuff (a) works nicely but (b) increases the level of busing and routing complexity, plus while definitely possible is a bit far-out to the extent that I am not entirely certain anyone other than me would want to do it, even though there are some fascinatingly useful things one can do with it . . .

(1) NOTION is playing Studio One Professional virtual instruments (native and VSTi), while also playing its own native virtual instruments and VSTi virtual instruments it hosts . . .

(2) NOTION is playing Reason synthesizers, as is Studio One Professional--both using MIDI: for this purpose . . .

(3) Reason is playing VSTI virtual instruments hosted in Studio One Professional, along with playing native Studio One Professional instruments . . .

(4) Studio One Professional is playing Reason synthesizers via MIDI it sends to Reason . . .

Why anyone would want to do all this simultaneously s another matter, but it's possible with Reason 10; and it works . . .

Add recording real lead guitar and vocals to the blend, and the experiment verifies that everything works--even though few people in their right minds actually need or want to do all that stuff at the same time . . .

Here in the sound isolation studio, I like to know the rules . . . :+1

Lots of FUN! :)

P. S. I need to start installing and testing the various VSTi virtual instruments and VST effects plug-ins I use; so this also is on the list of verifications I need to do, which is fabulous . . .

Fabulous! :)

Re: Project: macOS Catalina ~ New World of Digital Music Production

Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 10:31 pm
by michaelmyers1
Surf, Kontakt 6 runs without a problem for me on Catalina in S1. You might want to rescan the plug-ins in S1. I think once it's blacklisted, it won't try it again until you tell it to.

Re: Project: macOS Catalina ~ New World of Digital Music Production

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 8:32 am
by Surf.Whammy
michaelmyers1 wroteSurf, Kontakt 6 runs without a problem for me on Catalina in S1. You might want to rescan the plug-ins in S1. I think once it's blacklisted, it won't try it again until you tell it to.


This was on the 2.8-GHz (8-core) Mac Pro (Early 2008) running macOS El Capitan 10.11.6) here in the sound isolation studio, but it's working now based on your advice, which is appreciated . . . :+1

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I have not tried it on the macOS Catalina (15.2) MacBook Pro machines (2012, 2019) yet, but I know what to do now if there are any problems . . .

It took a few minutes of sleuthing, but I noticed there is a "Reset Blacklist" button, so I clicked it and then restarted Studio One Professional (current version), and it scanned and approved Kontakt 6 (current version), which I verified by creating a Kontakt 6 instrument (Audio Unit version) . . .

On a related note, I found an Apple 30" Cinema HD Display on eBay for $300 (US), including shipping; and it's fantastic . . .

I also got one for my photographer and graphic artist friend (running macOS Mojave on a 2012 mac Mini), and he says it's very nice. On the 2012 mac Mini it requires a Dual Link DVI converter cable and interface (looks like a deck of cards and connects the display cables to USB and Thunderbolt ports on the 2012 mac Mini. The FireWire 800 cable from the display connects directly to the 2012 mac Mini, so no converter required. And the display came with the Dual Link DVI converter, but the one I got didn't need the converter and connects directly to the Mac Pro (Early 2008) . . .

The one I got has a "StereoBotics" sticker, so I think it was used for something related to music, which is interesting . . .

These displays were high-technology in 2004, and they are in perfect condition. At the time, they cost several thousand dollars, which was outside my budget; but Apple makes good stuff and now I have one--15 years-old display on a 10 years-old supercomputer here in the sound isolation studio. Who builds stuff this good?

Apple does! :+1

And since it generates a bit of obvious warmth, I run a small fan to blow air across the display, which is nice in the winter due to my ongoing mission to bankrupt the local electric utility by not running the heater and air-conditioning unit . .

I have a small ceramic heater in the sound isolation studio, but the Apple 30" Cinema HD Display and Mac Pro (Early 2008) generate enough warmth that I only need to run the ceramic heater when it's in the 20's or 30's (Fahrenheit) . . .

I have warm clothes; have an electric blanket; and sleep in a recliner most of the time (avoids back problems, keeps everything aligned and so forth, very comfortable) . . .

This "rollback to the clock 100 years" strategy reduced my monthly electric bill by at least $800, so I like it; and even though I find people like Greta Thunberg to be obnoxiously annoying, I am "old school" green--except for the computer, of course . . .

It's not really about being green . . . :mrgreen:

I want to bankrupt the city and its very expensive electric service . . .

As you know, I like building houses; but when it's for me, I stop when it's weathered and has a proper asphalt shingle roof, which is a bit odd; but I like being able to see the framing lumber--which I reinforce fanatically with Simpson Strong-Tie metal connectors installed with Reisser wood screws from Germany that will stop a 1.5 horsepower electric Makita drill (not battery, but regular 120V electric), which requires Reisser or Snap-On star bits (T-25) . . .

The eye of Hurricane Rita went directly overhead--totally still, very surreal--but with wind gusts to 150 miles per hour for 12 hours before and after--with no problems. The walls shook a bit, but so what (11.5 ft. ceilings, first floor) . . .

I think the house will withstand an F1 or F2 tornado, but I don't want to do that experiment . . .

[NOTE: External sheathing is 3/4" Sturd-I-Floor® plywood (tongue and groove). More work to install but very sturdy. Tree stumps in foreground are oak trees that I had removed professionally so they wouldn't fall on the house after the top 40' of one of them fell, but missed the house. A few months ago, another one at the corner fell over but missed the house--blocked two city streets and knocked down electric wires but city took care of it (no charge). Cut power to several city blocks for about 12 hours. On the good side, the city takes care of stuff, so it's not all bad . . . ]

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It snapped 5 ft. diameter cedar trees across the street and large pine trees at the local Walmart Supercenter--snapped, not bent or blown over, looked like they were cut horizontally with a chain saw . . .

Try heating and cooling a 3,600 sq. ft., two-story house with no insulation and no sheetrock, using a Trane heat pump unit, air-handler, and electronic HEPA filtration (largest residential unit they make)--$1,000 a month for electricity . . .

Total waste of money, so I don't do it . . .

I live in a series of plywood boxes, really . . . :P

The sound isolation studio is a box within a box within a box; and I can have someone run a Stihl gasoline-powered chain saw in the kitchen and no noise in the sound isolation studio, but I can feel a bit of vibration, which is subsonic and doesn't matter . . .

It's all about music . . .

Lots of FUN! :)

Re: Project: macOS Catalina ~ New World of Digital Music Production

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2020 10:58 am
by michaelmyers1
Nice! "God is in the details" is one of my favorite architect quotes from Ludwig Mies van der Rohe.

Those first Apple Cinema HD displays were amazing. I worked on a project for Apple in Cupertino where we had dual cinema displays being run by the early trash can MacPros. It was an amazing setup!

Re: Project: macOS Catalina ~ New World of Digital Music Production

Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2020 5:10 pm
by Surf.Whammy
Great! Excellent quotation! :)

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The local building inspectors are very diligent, but in our little town the homeowner can do everything--with the exception of running natural gas lines, which makes sense and is fine with me . . .

The first thing I did after the carpenters completed the plywood box was to start on the electric service entrance which I did myself . . .

Based on inspecting it, the building inspectors said I obviously knew electric wiring, so they said "no more electric inspections, but this was not the case with plumbing, since I told them I only had done some basic plumbing and had studied a few books on plumbing . . .

At first, the plumbing inspectors appeared at random times once or twice a day, which from my perspective was a bit annoying . . .

So, I devised a plan to make the plumbing inspectors "happy" . . .

Once I had run enough drain lines, vent stacks, and water lines to install a lavatory and toilet, the next time the plumbing inspectors appeared, I did a "show and tell" presentation, which among other things featured a viewing "cut-out" where the primary drain line exited underneath the house and connected to the sewer line . . .

The first presentation was the lavatory, which by design had a 2" diameter vent stack and drain . . .

I filled the lavatory with water to the overflow and then a helper and I each held two, gallon milk jugs filled with water, which we poured into the lavatory while the hot and cold water faucets were running a maximum, after we removed the lavatory drain plug, of course (1920s cast iron, porcelain lavatory, hence a drain plug on a chain and separate hot cold faucets). Also since nobody told me about a water pressure regulator, the water coming into the house is a full pressure and maps to a 1 inch diameter garden hose producing a stream of water 1 inch in diameter for about 15 feet, and that's after I decided to use a variable flow-valve to tame the incoming water pressure. It should be a proper water pressure regulator, but the way I did it is working, hence so what . . .

[NOTE: The house is not so far from the water tower, hence the water pressure is excellent even in the morning when everyone in town is taking baths and showers . . . ]

The lavatory drained rapidly with no water spills, and I remarked "There is no lavatory within 100 miles of here that drains this well"; and they agreed . . . :+1

The next presentation was even more impressive . . .

I put a Hostess Twinkie in the toilet and flushed the toilet, telling everyone to run outside to look at the viewing "cut out", which we all did; and sure enough after about a minute there came the Hostess Twinkie gently floating into the sewer line . . . :P

The key, as you know, is to have a very shallow slope to the drain lines, so that heavy stuff floats on the water and doesn't get stuck along the way . . .

After that, there were no more inspections--except for the occupant safety inspection, where after a team meeting, they agreed there was a window in the bedroom and enough external doors to egress when it was necessary . . .

Building inspections are important and necessary, but not two times a day for one house when one person is doing all the work . . .

They continued to do surprise inspections, but instead of being once or twice a day, it once a week or every second week; and since there was no sheetrock, they could see everything and check it if they had questions or concerns . . .

I like daylight--mowing lawns, trimming shrubbery, and gardening--but mostly I stay inside the plywood box, except for occasionally standing on the back porch after midnight in hopes that the Aliens From Outer Space will beam me to their spaceship and tell me (a) all the secrets of particle physics or (b) how to compose and perform a hit song, which so far has not happened, although I think I have discovered the secrets of particle physics, based primarily on the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) detecting a grand total of zero particles predicted by the various supersymmetry theories . . .

The problem is that detecting tiny stuff requires massive power, and at the LHC it requires accelerating and smashing protons at 0.9999999 the speed of light, which in turn requires a huge and powerful accelerator, which overall allows easy detection of particles as small as 10**-16 to 10**-17 cm) . . .

But at the Plank length (10**-33 cm), the amount of energy required creates a miniature black hole, so you can't detect (or "see") anything, at least based on the current understanding of Albert Einstein's general relativity, spacetime, and all that stuff . . .

Making all the worse, the goofballs who devised the Copenhagen Interpretation tell us that if all the people on Earth were in North America and had never been anywhere else at any time in history, then Russia literally and figuratively would not exist until one of the humans traveled to Russia and observed it firsthand thereby causing Russia to exist due to being observed by a human . . .

Some of it works at the micro level, but it fails miserably at the cosmological or macro level . . .

My hypothesis is that Isaac Newton was a brilliant but superb trickster who created calculus to encourage people to believe two fallacies, (a) that there is a tiniest thing which can be represented by infinitesimally small "slices" and (b) that time is discrete, hence nothing occurs or exists between the tiny "slices" . . .

Lots of FUN! :)

Re: Project: macOS Catalina ~ New World of Digital Music Production

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 3:00 am
by Surf.Whammy
Upgraded to macOS Catalina 15.3 and NOTION 6.6.478, 64-bit. No problems . . . :)

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I upgraded the 2012 MacBook Pro to macOS Catalina 15.3 and NOTION 6.6.478, 64-bit, with no problems . . .

Then I did the Studio One Professional and NOTOIN ReWire test, also with no problems . . .

Lots of FUN! :+1

Re: Project: macOS Catalina ~ New World of Digital Music Production

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 6:16 am
by Surf.Whammy
Upgraded the 2012 MacBook Pro (Retina) to macOS Catalina 15.4 . . . :+1

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The install appeared to be stuck in a loop where there was a white Apple logo and a white progress bar on a black screen, which ran for about 30 seconds, after which the screen went blank and a few seconds later the MacBook Pro beeped "SOS" in Morse code . . .

This occurred over-and-over for 30-minutes and it was annoying, so I powered-down the computer and took a nap . . .

Later I powered-up the computer and it continued the "SOS" loop, so I called Apple technical support and the Level 1 Advisor suggested letting it do the "SOS" sequence for as long as it desired, which I did . . .

About an hour later, it moved to the next phase of the installation, and 15 minutes later macOS Catalina 15.4 was installed . . .

The Apple Level 1 Advisor stayed on the cellphone the entire time and said she wanted to ensure everything was working and the install completed successfully, which I think earns her and Apple an A++, and there was no charge or fee for the technical support . . .

[NOTE: I am a registered Apple Developer, and I was calling from my cellphone; so she knew my name and other information. The developer program probably includes two technical support incidences, so perhaps it was not actually free, but so what. Excellent technical support, for sure! :+1 ]

Later, I found some information on the Apple website that says the "S.O.S" sequence occurs on older Macs when the EFI ROM appears to be corrupted and needs to be reloaded . . .

The technical note says it takes a while, so let it run . . .

Now I am running macOS Catalina on the 2012 MacBook Pro (Retina), and everything is good!

Studio One Professional 4.6.1.55987 and NOTION 6.6.478, 64-bit (current versions) are working nicely--separately and in a ReWire session where Studio One Professional is the ReWire host controller and NOTION is the ReWire slave . . .

Lots of FUN! :)

Re: Project: macOS Catalina ~ New World of Digital Music Production

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:24 pm
by michaelmyers1
You are certainly a model of caution! I have been humming along on macOS Catalina now for months, but admittedly, my requirements are simpler than yours. I just need Notion to work with Studio One Pro and for my plug-ins and VST's to be compatible. I jettisoned the ones that weren't (can't even remember now what they were) and am very happy with the whole business, and safer too.

I tend to subscribe to the "Italian School of Driving - You don't get anywhere by looking in the rear view mirror!"

:D

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 11:41 pm
by Surf.Whammy
michaelmyers1 wroteYou are certainly a model of caution!


There's a bit of truth to this observation . . . :+1

Knowledge is power, but it's important not to be encumbered by it . . .

Lots of FUN! :)

Re: Project: macOS Catalina ~ New World of Digital Music Production

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 9:40 pm
by Surf.Whammy
Installed the macOS Cataqlina 15.4 supplemental update with no problems . . . :)

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Everything went smoothly--no need to rebuild EFI ROM--and both Studio One Professional and NOTION (current versions) are working nicely . . .

Eventually, I will get around to doing experiments with third-party virtual instruments and effects plug-in, but I think it's all good . . .

Lots of FUN! :+1

P. S. In my ongoing effort to get every food and beverage delivered either (a) to my mailbox and front porch or (b) to the trunk of my car by PPE-clad Walmart Grocery associates (mind-bogglingly fabulous and requires zero human interfacing), I ordered a quart bottle of sorghum from Oberholtzer's Sorghum Mill in Kentucky, which arrived today . . .

It has a subtle flavor that reminds me of carrots--not a lot but a little, which is interesting . . .

It cost $30 and is the highest-quality pure sorghum, so I am happy . . . :+1

I was bored and curious, and now I need to find something to cook or bake that has sorghum as an ingredient--perhaps a pecan pie . . .

Sorghum has a different flavor than Steen's Pure Cane Syrup, Lyle's Golden Syrup, and blackstrap molasses, so at least tonight I am not bored . . .

Perhaps I will do a YouTube baking video featuring "The Cock-A-Doodle-Oodle Dance" (El Petardo & The Maglitos)--one of my pretend Cuban musical groups--as background music, which is fabulous . . .

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Fabulous! :P