Problem still remains in 3.5.1...Still no metering when recording without monitor button engaged. You can hear the signal being recorded but get no metering at all??....I was really hoping this would be addressed in the latest update, but sadly not....
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Tape style on
At stop or while recording?
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Try with tape style on.
Z on or off or are you monitoring out of box?
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Read page 15 of the new manual.
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Wow
Very Informative Thanks 😀
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Yeah I agree. Everything was working perfectly until this recent update, now the metering is backwards and my audio tracks I've recorded in are out of time badly. It's really strange because they are actually being placed too early timing wise into the arrangement. This was never the case before so it's really messing up my workflow 😔 I'm prob going to just go back to the last version.
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jpettit wroteIt is very important to always describe the following when describing monitoring questions of issues: Quick question... What's best practice with the low latency monitoring... Turn it on during tracking and then off when mixing or always leave it on? Also, when using pipeline to patch in outboard should low latency be turned on or off? Thanks!
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It does not matter much for 3.5.x as there is always a playback buffer setting and a record buffer settings. It is also very scenario based depending on plugins > 3ms or not, you system capability with Z on of off, etc.
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Jessa wroteTape style off, Monitor button off, arm track you can see and hear signal, hit record and you can still hear signal but see nothing on the meter.as you are recording. Sorry, so tell me again why this is an issue?
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jpettit wroteJessa wroteTape style off, Monitor button off, arm track you can see and hear signal, hit record and you can still hear signal but see nothing on the meter.as you are recording. I record arm the track I want to record on and the levels are coming in on that track accordingly but as soon as I hit record OR play the meter stops showing the input signal! That's quite obvious an issue. If I can't run the track without loosing the input meter how am I supposed to check the recording levels to the song that the singer or whatever is preforming to? Yes, there is a workaround in whatching the levels on the input channels instead but that doesnt tell you what tracks are being recorded witch is another obvious issue, especially when multi tracking. As it is now you wont be able to tell from the meters if you've accidently missed to arm a track for example. It's a big dissapointment that S1 team have ignored this, especially as it is VERY basic and worked before in 3.2 and before. As in any compatible DAW.
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danielpalm wrotejpettit wroteJessa wroteTape style off, Monitor button off, arm track you can see and hear signal, hit record and you can still hear signal but see nothing on the meter.as you are recording.
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I record arm the track I want to record on and the levels are coming in on that track accordingly but as soon as I hit record OR play the meter stops showing the input signal! That's quite obvious an issue.
<=== this is why I asked how that is an issue? If I can't run the track without loosing the input meter how am I supposed to check the recording levels to the song that the singer or whatever is preforming to? <== I am just looking for why that is a showstopper? My assumption is this is a 4th workflow which I call "out of the box" monitoring for people with mixing boards. This workflow is documented in pre 3.5 but not yet it post 3.5 monitoring document. I am guessing their response will be, 1) set the proper level before hitting record. If you have a need to "ride the input" then 2) use you faster responding board meter or the actual shown waves as you record. The issue with the later is the response time of the GUI is based on the slower DP buffer size. doesnt tell you what tracks are being recorded witch is another obvious issue, especially when multi tracking. As it is now you wont be able to tell from the meters if you've accidently missed to arm a track for example. <=== this is a new input. But they will say check it before you start. I am not resisting your response just looking for a case to make to them. Thanks[/quote][/quote] I get that, and I appriciate it! Firstly, the 1) assuming response to set the proper level before hit rec, I usually let the singer sing through the song while I'm setting the levels but since I cant see the meters when I hit play (or record for that matter) it forces me to look at the board meter as you mentioned. And why is that an issue? Well for instance, I have to open up the mixing board to see the board meter witch then will conceal the arrange window. (Ecpecially if I want to see the meter in more detail as I would have to "resize" the whole mixer window for that) It gives me a much better workflow to see the arranger window with all the tracks, setting the level in the track inspector on the left side (witch I can resize to great detail without taking any space from arrange window to speak of) than have to go back and forth between the mixer window and arrange. And also, I can't see only the input channel I'm recording on on the input channel board like in the arrange with the inspector, all the channels are visible at all times. So if I didn't care about seeing the arrange window but just the mixing board, half of the space would be occupied by the input meters. And as there are a channel input for all mono inputs and the stereo inputs for the same channels it takes up quite a lot of space when having 8 inputs from the soundcard. It would just be easier to have the mixer channels visible and be able to see the input levels on them when running through/recording a song. Like that the possibilitys to cutomise the visability of the mixingboard/arrange window etc its much more versatile. And lastly, why its such an showstopper is probably the question I haven't got an answer to yet, why they took it away in the first place? I hope I manage to explain why it messes up my workflow. Not big time, I can work but it would be just a lot easier to have it back as before. Once again, I appriciate your effort on this! Thanx, Daniel
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danielpalm wrote1) assuming response to set the proper level before hit rec, I usually let the singer sing through the song while I'm setting the levels but since I cant see the meters when I hit play (or record for that matter) it forces me to look at the board meter as you mentioned. I will summarize later today
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Thank's a lot, much appreciated!
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It's incredibly annoying. This should have been fixed months ago.
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I cant believe it! A new update and no fix!!??? This shouldn't even be discussed! And not a word on why they removed it int the first place and why it ain't fixed yet, or when they plan to do it. so disapointed
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