Presonus if people are worried about not getting the new synth due to the new pay package why not sell the synth (Lead Architect) separately?

I don't get it.

If a company needs more money to pay staff why not advertise and add synths that you can buy so there is money always coming in?

Maybe if I take over from Fender. I will give you some good ideas on how to make money.

I would purchase the synth and still be up to date without using a subscription.

shaunsmith6 wrotePresonus if people are worried about not getting the new synth due to the new pay package why not sell the synth (Lead Architect) separately?

I don't get it.

If a company needs more money to pay staff why not advertise and add synths that you can buy so there is money always coming in?

Maybe if I take over from Fender. I will give you some good ideas on how to make money.

I would purchase the synth and still be up to date without using a subscription.

The marketing/bean counters have decided there is sale value with exclusivity. What they don't understand is that excluding existing customers can give people the brush off.

However I've got too many synths to care about it right now, so I'm not bothered. If they starting fixing basic long term bugs for subscribers only I'd get in a rage about that, but it seems not enough of that is happening anyway (my toys have already exited the pram about this).

Vocalpoint wrote

davidwyatt7 wroteAnyone running Windows 11 getting the "This application requires Windows 10 20H1 or later." error when trying to update to 6.6?

What exact version of Windows 11 are your running?

Click Start->Run and type "winver" at the prompt.

VP

Also, did you have to run one of the hacks to bypass processor / thread limitations to upgrade Win10 to Win11?

Anderton wrote

PreAl wroteGive Anderton the credit I would never have thought about it, I just jumped on his bandwagon. Try to use the ASIO drivers that are supplied for your interface rather than Windows audio (unless you have no choice). Thx.

Well thanks, but it's an important bandwagon and your post added clarity. It's also good you mentioned avoiding Windows drivers unless necessary. Although the newer ones are getting better, ASIO drivers dedicated to an interface remain the best option.

ASIO4ALL-based drivers have become accepted because sometimes they work. But it's good to remind people that its branded variants are just as problematic as standard ASIO4ALL, and programs install it willy-nilly so you can end up with four or five of them on your computer.

True story: I had a friend who was about to do a presentation to a group of important people on an audio interface that had excellent drivers. He used the interface all the time in his studio. For the presentation, he installed the drivers on his laptop for use with the interface and all hell broke loose. He was in a total panic and asked if I could help. The first thing I checked for was ASIO4ALL being installed bedause I'd run into a similar problem before that took me forever to figure out. As soon as I uninstalled it, everything worked fine.

Having not paid attention to the fine print in you signature, I failed to realize who you were. I remembered the last name Anderton from one of my first MIDI books way back when, but I assumed it was a coincidence. Then today I noticed your webpage details and realized you are THAT Anderton, Craig Anderton, who through your book introduced me to the subject when I was first getting interested in computer-based music. Thank you, sir.

gregghart wrote Also, did you have to run one of the hacks to bypass processor / thread limitations to upgrade Win10 to Win11?

Nice one! Forgot about this.

VP

hopetonmcgregorjr wrote

ulrichberndt wrote

robertcollado1 wroteSince I installed the update I am having problems with one plugin : The God Particle
The entire interface of the plugin is black , every time I open a new instance I have the same problem a black interface with no settings .
I am on Mac intel , anybody else had problems with the god particle and the new studio one update ?

Same problem after 6.6 update.

Windows 10 Home 22H2

bassfx wrote

Anderton wroteI can't predict the future, but two things...

Thanks, Craig! I really appreciate your perspective. I wanted to peek back into the thread today and see what the latest news was, given the mixed messaging and related reactions to the news of last week, and I saw your responses.

I still don't see any official word from Presonus yet, so do you think at this point it's safe to assume that Presonus is not going to say much more on this topic? Officially, that is?

I'm just thinking for now that since you (and a few others) have sort of unofficially covered some of the main issues now, and since Presonus didn't object to your statements or offer any other clarifications, that perhaps they feel the matter is basically settled?

Your further insight is always appreciated.

Well it's Friday, another week gone by, and I still don't see any official word from Presonus to clarify everything and let us know where this ship is really heading. Including no additional unofficial insight from Craig Anderton on this situation, who is the best thing going for Presonus PR right now IMO.

This lack of official response truly surprises and disappoints me, especially to see so many unofficial posts and speculation here and on other platforms/forums, but no transparency and clarity right from Presonus management itself.

I can only conclude at this point that Presonus is satisfied with what unfolded and fine with this unofficial response for now. While Presonus may be planning a formal response later on with a patch release and/or new online store launch, the net effect on me has caused me to re-evaluate whether or not I want to continue using Studio One or any Presonus products for that matter.

So after having some time to think about it and looking back at the overall direction of Presonus in recent years, I realized my time using Studio One is coming to an end.

Why waste my time posting this? Why not just fade out and disappear? Very true, I could just give up. But I decided to post this with one last bit of hope that maybe one of the Presonus senior leadership will read this and make some changes to the direction Presonus is going. No need to get into more detail here, I've already said my thoughts in other posts in this thread, including some sincere suggestions. I'll just reiterate what I said about Arnd earlier in this thread, that I respect him and his team, I've had good exchanges with him in the past, and I wish them all the best in the future.

However, I've now realized I'm no longer going the same direction that I see Presonus going.

So I'm checking out and saying goodbye for now, I'll miss Studio One, but who knows, life goes on, you never know the future, so perhaps Studio One 7 or 8 or 9 running on Linux one day will be my dream DAW, and maybe I'll see a shift in the Presonus business model that I like too. I've been around the block a few times to know the wisdom of keeping my options open in this business.

Cheers to all of you -- best wishes in your own creative journeys, may you make your best music ever.

bassfx wrote

bassfx wroteCheers to all of you -- best wishes in your own creative journeys, may you make your best music ever.

bassfx

Continued success!

VP

Some clarification over the everlasting bug of Studio One on MacOS.
Aimed especially at the devs. This is more than an easy fix, guys.. It should not take then next 10 releases before getting it sorted.

da46 wroteThis is more than an easy fix, guys.

It is an easy fix.

Click the Pin icon in the upper right of a plugin UI and the plugins will stay right where you need them to be.

VP

shaunsmith6 wrotePresonus if people are worried about not getting the new synth due to the new pay package why not sell the synth (Lead Architect) separately?

I don't get it.

If a company needs more money to pay staff why not advertise and add synths that you can buy so there is money always coming in?

Maybe if I take over from Fender. I will give you some good ideas on how to make money.

I would purchase the synth and still be up to date without using a subscription.

That's very easy to answer: any one who makes a project with S1 subscription and uses the synth (or any other addon no longer available for purchase) will no longer be able to playback their project unless they resubscribe. It's the whole premise of "Hybrid" - a model designed to mislead users with the promise of a "perpetual " license. A perpetual license that cannot play back projects unless you resubscribe. It's all about money. And the fact Presonus have made no official comment, no clarification, just shows how much contempt they have for their users.

Geez...... First...OF COURSE it's about MONEY or did you get the impression Presonus was a non-profit? CONTEMPT.........C'mon! Just don't use the new synth, or use it for a year and render it out. Or use your midi on a new synth. There is no conspiracy.

jackdey wroteA perpetual license that cannot play back projects unless you resubscribe.

Correction - A perpetual license that will give you access to your full S1 projects and play back everything you ever recorded - forever - just as long as you never use any extras contained in the Hybrid subscription.

If it's really "all about the money" - a smart user could take this Hybrid deal, enjoy a full 12 months worth of outstanding updates, never use the Hybrid extras and then ride into the sunset on a new school perp license - forever. Never having to spend a cent again for years.

If you have the fortitude to ignore the extras AND be content to stay on a specific version of S1 for many years - this could be the best $180.00 bucks you ever spent.

Unlike other companies subs - that cut you off permanently at the knees when the term ends and you end up with nothing.

VP

Vocalpoint wroteIf you have the fortitude to ignore the extras AND be content to stay on a specific version of S1 for many years - this could be the best $180.00 bucks you ever spent.

Or (as AAV stated) enjoy the extras for one year and render them out before the subscription expires.

Vocalpoint wrote

da46 wroteThis is more than an easy fix, guys.

It is an easy fix.

Click the Pin icon in the upper right of a plugin UI and the plugins will stay right where you need them to be.

VP

Your consideration is valid for Windows version of the software, not on MacOS.

da46 wroteYour consideration is valid for Windows version of the software, not on MacOS.

Interesting. Just tested this here - and my plugins stay right where they are - even without clicking the "pin" icon on Windows 10.

Looks like a "focus" issue on Mac where whatever you click on - if it is an actual running process (executable) like your example with the UAD Console (running executable) AND Studio One (running executable) and NOT a plugin window (which is a non-executable process) it takes over the screen.

On the surface (not being a Mac user) - if this ends up being a MacOS thing - where Apple is in control of the order of focus and foreground application - not sure what Presonus can do here.

All I can confirm is that Windows 10 allows overlapping windows without issue and that has nothing to do with Studio One as this behavior is repeatable with any pair of executables (Word, Photoshop, Wavelab etc etc)

VP

Vocalpoint wrote

jackdey wroteA perpetual license that cannot play back projects unless you resubscribe.

Correction - A perpetual license that will give you access to your full S1 projects and play back everything you ever recorded - forever - just as long as you never use any extras contained in the Hybrid subscription.

If it's really "all about the money" - a smart user could take this Hybrid deal, enjoy a full 12 months worth of outstanding updates, never use the Hybrid extras and then ride into the sunset on a new school perp license - forever. Never having to spend a cent again for years.

If you have the fortitude to ignore the extras AND be content to stay on a specific version of S1 for many years - this could be the best $180.00 bucks you ever spent.

Unlike other companies subs - that cut you off permanently at the knees when the term ends and you end up with nothing.

VP

That assumes users know about the addons not being included. The whole revenue generation premise of the Hybrid strategy is that the extras are not included in perpetual and are withdrawn from sale. This forces users to resubscribe if they used any addon such as the new synth. It is a strategy designed to mislead casual users whilst offering a headline "value proposition" for marketing. They will know all the install numbers, this will have been analysed and modelled accordingly without consideration of the loyal "Pro License" users and the features withdrawn from that group of users. I'm sure they are patting themselves on the back knowing they have herded in some already. 👀

For anyone feeling deprived about not being able to pay their hard earned cash for Lead Architect, with all respect toward what that VST may have on offer, coincidentally I just stumbled upon this free dead-on emulation of the Access Virus:

https://dsp56300.wordpress.com/

Americans like me were probably unfamiliar with the Virus series since the country as a whole never went wild for "Eurobeats," so it flew under my radar completely. Well, all I can say is that not only is it a sonic universe way more diverse than just an ability to create squiggly arpeggiated Eurobeats, it's actually blown my mind how good it is (original OB8 owner here) at all sorts of sound creation. And the GUI is even easy to get around on.

Do yourself a favor, go down the rabbit hole, I've been around here a while and don't make a habit of gushing about things but this emulation is fantastic and it's free!