Vocalpoint wroteWell it’s a public forum.

When I encounter posts I do not like or agree with - I simply ignore them and move on.

You could consider this.

VP

But how am I going to use "gaslighting" in a sentence like all the cool kids are doing these days?

bgilbert wroteThen you should have ignored my comment. Yet your gaslighting, again. I'm done - with this thread and Presonus.

Whew... we can all finally exhale. We were all waiting on pins and needles for the announcement.


Can Presonus sticky a thread for everyone wanting to announce to the world they are leaving?

It would be great to have a place to grieve all of our fallen comrades where we can express all the ways they have touched and impacted our lives, and reflect on their contributions to the community.

bgilbert wroteI'm done - with this thread and Presonus.

Continued success.

VP

Hi All,
I have upgraded from v4 to v6.6 but have done this on a new PC.

I just wondered why all the projects have done in V4 is not showing at all and also I have no loops which I had in V4 it seems I have to now pay for them?

Davie

davidbegg wroteHi All,
I have upgraded from v4 to v6.6 but have done this on a new PC.

I just wondered why all the projects have done in V4 is not showing at all and also I have no loops which I had in V4 it seems I have to now pay for them?

Davie

1. Have you copied your projects (songs I assume?) to your new computer? You can see the correct location for user data (songs, projects, shows, presets etc.) when you go to Studio One -> Options... -> Locations -> User Data. This is the folder where Studio One will look for your user files. Of course, you can also change this folder here if necessary.

2. Have you installed the Soundsets (loops, presets, samples) that you had in Studio One 4?

Hi Lukaz thanks for responding as silly as this sounds I dont know how to do either 😪

I have checked that location but there is nothing at all.

Davie

Hi Folks, i have installed the suggested Diva Update, which is actually an old update from last Year November. Version 1.4.7. It still crashes Studio One 6.6.
Im Running on a mac M2 , Ventura. I am sure i must be missing something. can someone pls assist me . Thank You

markbeling wroteHi Folks, i have installed the suggested Diva Update, which is actually an old update from last Year November. Version 1.4.7. It still crashes Studio One 6.6.

We should the answer to this make a sticky!

Most recent versions of Cubase & Studio One require an update of Diva (it's a "1.4.7 beta" with higher build number). You can download it here:

https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=603439

markbeling wroteIm Running on a mac M2 , Ventura

Time to update your signature - no longer Mac from 2013 with Sierra

PreAl wroteThere is a ten seconds delay when visiting the forums for the first time (i.e. click on an email link) that didn't used to happen... like something is timing out (perhaps DNS pointing to the something that doesn't yet exist). Somebody has been messing around with the config.

Appears fixed. Running faster than ever.
Sadly the link sent with email notifications for this forum, that takes you to a login page when logged out, still does not direct to the correct thread. Guess it will never be fixed. Has been brought up countless times before.

leosutherland wrote

AAV wroteFYI I just looked up Presonus on JRR Shop - looks like everything is available - audio batch converter, Presence XT Editor, Fat Channel, etc etc

https://www.jrrshop.com/presonus?dir=de ... _from_date

What I'm looking for, and what JRR don't got is Sample One XT - is this one of those that has disappeared forever behind the + curtain?

Any ideas of a retailer that dose sell it? Or failing that, is there a good 3rd party alternative?

Sample One XT is installed with Studio One Artist or Professional, there's no need to buy it. It's part of the core program.

It's like a Family reunion

Anderton wrote

leosutherland wrote

AAV wroteFYI I just looked up Presonus on JRR Shop - looks like everything is available - audio batch converter, Presence XT Editor, Fat Channel, etc etc

https://www.jrrshop.com/presonus?dir=de ... _from_date

What I'm looking for, and what JRR don't got is Sample One XT - is this one of those that has disappeared forever behind the + curtain?

Any ideas of a retailer that dose sell it? Or failing that, is there a good 3rd party alternative?

Sample One XT is installed with Studio One Artist or Professional, there's no need to buy it. It's part of the core program.

Ah, there is is! Thanks Craig

I was looking for it after seeing Gregor's video on Sample to Synth (to paraphrase) - hadn't realised that Gregor had changed it's colour to yellow, so I was looking for something yellow in the browser

Now I got something else to learn

After reading all 12 pages (at this point) in this thread I really think the only thing that could impact me to a degree is if they no longer sell add ons in the PreSonus online store or through outside sources.

I have had my Pro versions since version 3. I never took the opportunity to sign up
for Sphere because of one reason. I want to own any software that I use to build a project.
I want the ability to go into a old project and know that I can still open it because I own and have access to everything built into it. Sphere offered tons of content but through Sphere I didn't own it.
I purchased my add ons from the store when I decided I wanted that feature or tool.

So for me I don't want a +Hybrid version. I would prefer to update my older style perpetual pro version 6 let us say to version 7.0 even if it is ~$149.00. If this update option were to go away well then I would have to rethink the whole issue.

If PreSonus add ons are to be available only through the +Hybrid subscription that will be a shame.
I hope we get more clarification soon in regard to the final statement on that. Currently there seems to be mixed information on the add on future availability.
L.D.

louisdornbierer wroteI have had my Pro versions since version 3. I never took the opportunity to sign up
for Sphere because of one reason. I want to own any software that I use to build a project.
I want the ability to go into a old project and know that I can still open it because I own and have access to everything built into it. Sphere offered tons of content but through Sphere I didn't own it.
I purchased my add ons from the store when I decided I wanted that feature or tool.

So for me I don't want a +Hybrid version. I would prefer to update my older style perpetual pro version 6 let us say to version 7.0 even if it is ~$149.00. If this update option were to go away well then I would have to rethink the whole issue.

If PreSonus add ons are to be available only through the +Hybrid subscription that will be a shame.
I hope we get more clarification soon in regard to the final statement on that. Currently there seems to be mixed information on the add on future availability.
L.D.

Your position exactly mirrors my own - Pro since version 3 and a few essential addons purchased from Presonus (and several other 3rd party plugins).

I am waiting to see what happens with regards to the next price for licence upgrade compared to Hybrid.

I see Cubase 13 now has many features which seem to owe a lot to Studio One. If push came to shove there are always other Daws out there.

johndoe313 wrote

markbeling wroteHi Folks, i have installed the suggested Diva Update, which is actually an old update from last Year November. Version 1.4.7. It still crashes Studio One 6.6.

We should the answer to this make a sticky!

Most recent versions of Cubase & Studio One require an update of Diva (it's a "1.4.7 beta" with higher build number). You can download it here:

https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=603439

markbeling wroteIm Running on a mac M2 , Ventura

Time to update your signature - no longer Mac from 2013 with Sierra

Thank You

louisdornbierer wroteSo for me I don't want a +Hybrid version. I would prefer to update my older style perpetual pro version 6 let us say to version 7.0 even if it is ~$149.00. If this update option were to go away well then I would have to rethink the whole issue.

If PreSonus add ons are to be available only through the +Hybrid subscription that will be a shame.
I hope we get more clarification soon in regard to the final statement on that. Currently there seems to be mixed information on the add on future availability.
L.D.

I can't predict the future, but two things...

1. The add-ons for Studio One itself (CTC-1, Presence Editor, Ampire High Impact, Batch Converter, FAT Channel bundles and individual plugins, some sample libraries, etc.) are available from JRRshop.com and some are also available from Sweetwater and B&H. So, the add-ons are indeed being offered through retail channels, and according to what I was told by PreSonus, they plan to continue doing so. Of course, it's up to the retailers to decide what products they want to carry. But at least based on JRRshop, it's "you want it, you got it." As to future add-ons, as far as I can tell there's no definitive answer as to whether they'll be offered through retail. My guess is that availability will be decided on a case-by-case basis. If asked, my recommendation would be add-ons that are similar to other third-party software (e.g;., effects, virtual instruments) be reserved for +, while add-ons specific to Studio One (MixFX, instrument editors, etc.) also be sold through retail.

2. Presonus has surely figured out that the companies doing the best offer perpetual licenses and subscriptions, or they wouldn't keep reassuring people that perpetual licenses won't go away. Some companies, like Universal Audio, offer even more choices. There's no reason to cut off a potential income stream unless no one, and I mean no one, makes purchases from it.

I assume PreSonus would prefer that people subscribe, because it reduces feast-and-famine cash flow for development. It also reduces the need for support because customers always have the latest software. So, they make subscriptions very attractive. But subscriptions aren't for everyone. It makes zero sense to turn those customers away.

Anderton wroteI can't predict the future, but two things...

1. The add-ons for Studio One itself (CTC-1, Presence Editor, Ampire High Impact, Batch Converter, FAT Channel bundles and individual plugins, some sample libraries, etc.) are available from JRRshop.com and some are also available from Sweetwater and B&H. So, the add-ons are indeed being offered through retail channels, and according to what I was told by PreSonus, they plan to continue doing so. Of course, it's up to the retailers to decide what products they want to carry. But at least based on JRRshop, it's "you want it, you got it." As to future add-ons, as far as I can tell there's no definitive answer as to whether they'll be offered through retail. My guess is that availability will be decided on a case-by-case basis. If asked, my recommendation would be add-ons that are similar to other third-party software (e.g;., effects, virtual instruments) be reserved for +, while add-ons specific to Studio One (MixFX, instrument editors, etc.) also be sold through retail.

2. Presonus has surely figured out that the companies doing the best offer perpetual licenses and subscriptions, or they wouldn't keep reassuring people that perpetual licenses won't go away. Some companies, like Universal Audio, offer even more choices. There's no reason to cut off a potential income stream unless no one, and I mean no one, makes purchases from it.

I assume PreSonus would prefer that people subscribe, because it reduces feast-and-famine cash flow for development. It also reduces the need for support because customers always have the latest software. So, they make subscriptions very attractive. But subscriptions aren't for everyone. It makes zero sense to turn those customers away.

Also from a prior post:

Anderton wroteFWIW this is being written on my own initiative. I don't know what the Studio One team will think of it, but that's not my concern. It's just an opinion that some of you may appreciate. Or not .

Thanks, Craig! I really appreciate your perspective. I wanted to peek back into the thread today and see what the latest news was, given the mixed messaging and related reactions to the news of last week, and I saw your responses.

I still don't see any official word from Presonus yet, so do you think at this point it's safe to assume that Presonus is not going to say much more on this topic? Officially, that is?

I'm just thinking for now that since you (and a few others) have sort of unofficially covered some of the main issues now, and since Presonus didn't object to your statements or offer any other clarifications, that perhaps they feel the matter is basically settled?

Your further insight is always appreciated.

bassfx wroteI still don't see any official word from Presonus yet, so do you think at this point it's safe to assume that Presonus are not going to say much more on this topic? Officially, that is?

Now that the chaos has settled - I still think Presonus is/was a bit shell shocked with the outcry - given that all they did (in reality) was change a name on a sub and add one more (minor) value-add (Lead Architect) to that newly named sub.

That value add BTW - could have been anything - from a meh sample pack to another version of iZotope Neutron Elements to any other lower level item - but because it was a "Presonus" synth - the userbase (including me for 10 or 15 minutes) went ballistic - taking FUD to a whole new level by thinking the sky was suddenly falling in.

Craig said it best "It makes zero sense to turn those customers away"

For me - nothing changed whatsoever. Looking forward to the new Presonus store when it is ready for primetime.

Until then - back to the work at hand...

VP

Anderton wrote
I can't predict the future, but two things...

1. The add-ons for Studio One itself (CTC-1, Presence Editor, Ampire High Impact, Batch Converter, FAT Channel bundles and individual plugins, some sample libraries, etc.) are available from JRRshop.com and some are also available from Sweetwater and B&H. So, the add-ons are indeed being offered through retail channels, and according to what I was told by PreSonus, they plan to continue doing so. Of course, it's up to the retailers to decide what products they want to carry. But at least based on JRRshop, it's "you want it, you got it." As to future add-ons, as far as I can tell there's no definitive answer as to whether they'll be offered through retail. My guess is that availability will be decided on a case-by-case basis. If asked, my recommendation would be add-ons that are similar to other third-party software (e.g;., effects, virtual instruments) be reserved for +, while add-ons specific to Studio One (MixFX, instrument editors, etc.) also be sold through retail.

2. Presonus has surely figured out that the companies doing the best offer perpetual licenses and subscriptions, or they wouldn't keep reassuring people that perpetual licenses won't go away. Some companies, like Universal Audio, offer even more choices. There's no reason to cut off a potential income stream unless no one, and I mean no one, makes purchases from it.

I assume PreSonus would prefer that people subscribe, because it reduces feast-and-famine cash flow for development. It also reduces the need for support because customers always have the latest software. So, they make subscriptions very attractive. But subscriptions aren't for everyone. It makes zero sense to turn those customers away.

Craig, Thank you for your response. I agree with you especially the section of your quote I emphasized in bold. I am old fashioned in that I try to have a little bit of an allegiance, staying supportive when they are trying to offer something better to people as in the growth and development of Studio One.

I have purchased quite a lot from the PreSonus store through the years. Maybe more then I needed. I liked Studio One enough to try and support it as best I could including through purchases.
I agree that anything new that is developed that improves the functionality/mechanics of Studio One should be available across ALL Versions.
If functionality started getting limited to only the +Hybrid sub or a particular version then that would possibly be a send off for me and I would suspect other customers. I doubt highly though that PreSonus would opt for that unless Fender corporate commands it.
I remain positive that the lumpy road will get smoothed out as the next few weeks go by.

I appreciate your opinions and am glad you have added a voice of reason to the conversation.
I also appreciate your skills and sharing your knowledge with all of us.
Thank you!