Anderton wroteIt's a long shot, but is there any chance that Studio One is somehow using the generic Cubase ASIO driver? There was a Windows update recently.

Whether it's being used or not, if installed it should be fully removed regardless (unless you really have a use case for it, a pretty rare circumstance).

Now that the dust has settled, it looks like it was a problem in communication. Now, having personally made a much worse hashup with a product announcement, I'm in no position to criticize. But, for fun and amusement, I offer up this version...

"Presonus is pleased to announce Version 6.6 of Studio One, available now. It includes Apple spatial audio monitoring, enhanced Dolby Atmos, integrated Tunecore upload, and more.

Our subscription service has been replaced with Studio One Hybrid. It's the same Studio One+ you know, with the addition of a full perpetual Studio One Pro licence that you keep if you cancel.

Presonus will no longer sell Studio One add ons through the Presonus store. However, they are still available through selected online dealers, including JRR Shop, (etc.)

Finally, we are pleased to announce a new virtual instrument "Lead Architect". This add on combines post-processed synthesis and sampling, integrated audio and effects, and an intuitive new user interface to generate powerful leads. It's included in Studio One Hybrid, and will be available shortly through online dealers"

Of course, if the above is not correct, well, this is me walking backwards out of the room.

Presonus will no longer sell Studio One add ons through the Presonus store. However, they are still available through selected online dealers, including JRR Shop, (etc.)

Not exactly, because only a part of the add-ons that were available in the store are now available through other resellers. For example, all Studio One add-ons produced by third-party developers. Some have their own stores, others are no longer available anywhere.

PreAl wrote

Anderton wroteIt's a long shot, but is there any chance that Studio One is somehow using the generic Cubase ASIO driver? There was a Windows update recently.

Whether it's being used or not, if installed it should be fully removed regardless (unless you really have a use case for it, a pretty rare circumstance).

Ahhh, just like the good old times, together again

jazzundso wrote

Presonus will no longer sell Studio One add ons through the Presonus store. However, they are still available through selected online dealers, including JRR Shop, (etc.)

Not exactly, because only a part of the add-ons that were available in the store are now available through other resellers. For example, all Studio One add-ons produced by third-party developers. Some have their own stores, others are no longer available anywhere.

I only hope if there is any future MixFX releases that we will get them via 3rd party stores, I would be very disappointed if they weren't.

I hope the new PreSonus Shop is not just a mirage, and does actually eventuate in a form resembling the old in the not to distant future so that side of things could get back to something approaching normality.

j0001s wroteNow that the dust has settled, it looks like it was a problem in communication. Now, having personally made a much worse hashup with a product announcement, I'm in no position to criticize. But, for fun and amusement, I offer up this version...

"Presonus is pleased to announce Version 6.6 of Studio One, available now. It includes Apple spatial audio monitoring, enhanced Dolby Atmos, integrated Tunecore upload, and more.

Our subscription service has been replaced with Studio One Hybrid. It's the same Studio One+ you know, with the addition of a full perpetual Studio One Pro licence that you keep if you cancel.

Presonus will no longer sell Studio One add ons through the Presonus store. However, they are still available through selected online dealers, including JRR Shop, (etc.)

Finally, we are pleased to announce a new virtual instrument "Lead Architect". This add on combines post-processed synthesis and sampling, integrated audio and effects, and an intuitive new user interface to generate powerful leads. It's included in Studio One Hybrid, and will be available shortly through online dealers"

Of course, if the above is not correct, well, this is me walking backwards out of the room.

Good copywriting!

Ditto on the recommended press release. Many tip over at the first hint of change. I include myself in that list sometimes.
Lukas, do you know if the personus instruments that were not part of the the perpetual license, ( like the personus orchestral plugin) will be available beyond, or outside of Studio One plus / Hybrid. I looked in JRR and did not see any of the Personus instrument plugins. Mostly just curious.

Anderton wroteIt's a long shot, but is there any chance that Studio One is somehow using the generic Cubase ASIO driver? There was a Windows update recently.

Sorry I'm just now getting back to this, apparently my post was the last on page 12 and I didn't realize things had continued on to page 13. Oh well...

Thanks for the suggestion Anderton, I'll have to check that out. Won't be able to do so until Monday earliest, but I will post back here.

The fact that things are working fine with SO instrument tracks that directly host the Synchron Player makes me wonder though, whether an ASIO driver would act differently with VE Pro than Synchron Player. Still, it won't hurt to check, I might be surprised to find out that is the problem.

DaddyO wrote

Anderton wroteIt's a long shot, but is there any chance that Studio One is somehow using the generic Cubase ASIO driver? There was a Windows update recently.

Sorry I'm just now getting back to this, apparently my post was the last on page 12 and I didn't realize things had continued on to page 13. Oh well...

Thanks for the suggestion Anderton, I'll have to check that out. Won't be able to do so until Monday earliest, but I will post back here.

The fact that things are working fine with SO instrument tracks that directly host the Synchron Player makes me wonder though, whether an ASIO driver would act differently with VE Pro than Synchron Player. Still, it won't hurt to check, I might be surprised to find out that is the problem.

The generic cubase driver is very similar to ASIO4ALL (that should be fully removed too I less there is a real use case). It's not like normal ASIO drivers and can cause havoc/conflicts with other drivers if installed.

I would also give the latencymon utility a go and see if you can identify anything with high DPC latency, also temporarily disable any realtime virus scanners.

Also make sure.windows update is up to date, and assuming hardware is compatible, consider updating to windows 11.

Really not much use for VSTi and soundsets anymore. I wonder how it would be to just play my synths and drums into the OBS and my guitars thru the preamps and interface preamps. I will always buy some device or pay for an upgrade to the next studio one though. I can't wait till I am farmed for subscriptions money! I am really looking forward to having to make a committment this way. Isn't every man?

PreAl wrote

DaddyO wrote

Anderton wroteIt's a long shot, but is there any chance that Studio One is somehow using the generic Cubase ASIO driver? There was a Windows update recently.

Sorry I'm just now getting back to this, apparently my post was the last on page 12 and I didn't realize things had continued on to page 13. Oh well...

Thanks for the suggestion Anderton, I'll have to check that out. Won't be able to do so until Monday earliest, but I will post back here.

The fact that things are working fine with SO instrument tracks that directly host the Synchron Player makes me wonder though, whether an ASIO driver would act differently with VE Pro than Synchron Player. Still, it won't hurt to check, I might be surprised to find out that is the problem.

The generic cubase driver is very similar to ASIO4ALL (that should be fully removed too I less there is a real use case). It's not like normal ASIO drivers and can cause havoc/conflicts with other drivers if installed.

I would also give the latencymon utility a go and see if you can identify anything with high DPC latency, also temporarily disable any realtime virus scanners.

Also make sure.windows update is up to date, and assuming hardware is compatible, consider updating to windows 11.

PreAI, you and Anderton were right regarding the ASIO driver. I have been using the Yamaha Steinberg ASIO driver with my original version Steinberg UR22 for years with no problems. In fact, when I originally started using it, it solved an ASIO problem at that time. For this reason I haven't even thought about ASIO drivers in years.

But just now in Studio One I switched to what was termed the "Windows Audio" driver and the stutter was gone. Your suggestion has restored my ability to use Studio One. Thanks so much.

Give Anderton the credit I would never have thought about it, I just jumped on his bandwagon. Try to use the ASIO drivers that are supplied for your interface rather than Windows audio (unless you have no choice). Thx.

PreAl wroteGive Anderton the credit I would never have thought about it, I just jumped on his bandwagon. Try to use the ASIO drivers that are supplied for your interface rather than Windows audio (unless you have no choice). Thx.

Got it.

Thanks, Anderton.

The Yamaha Steinberg ASIO is what has been recommended for my UR22 in the past. I'll check around to see if that has changed.

PreAl wrote

PreAl wrote Appears fixed. Running faster than ever.

Back to slowness again today - taking anywhere from 2-5 secs to get a page.

Sigh.

VP

PreAl wroteGive Anderton the credit I would never have thought about it, I just jumped on his bandwagon. Try to use the ASIO drivers that are supplied for your interface rather than Windows audio (unless you have no choice). Thx.

Well thanks, but it's an important bandwagon and your post added clarity. It's also good you mentioned avoiding Windows drivers unless necessary. Although the newer ones are getting better, ASIO drivers dedicated to an interface remain the best option.

ASIO4ALL-based drivers have become accepted because sometimes they work. But it's good to remind people that its branded variants are just as problematic as standard ASIO4ALL, and programs install it willy-nilly so you can end up with four or five of them on your computer.

True story: I had a friend who was about to do a presentation to a group of important people on an audio interface that had excellent drivers. He used the interface all the time in his studio. For the presentation, he installed the drivers on his laptop for use with the interface and all hell broke loose. He was in a total panic and asked if I could help. The first thing I checked for was ASIO4ALL being installed bedause I'd run into a similar problem before that took me forever to figure out. As soon as I uninstalled it, everything worked fine.

Anderton wrote

PreAl wroteGive Anderton the credit I would never have thought about it, I just jumped on his bandwagon. Try to use the ASIO drivers that are supplied for your interface rather than Windows audio (unless you have no choice). Thx.

Well thanks, but it's an important bandwagon and your post added clarity. It's also good you mentioned avoiding Windows drivers unless necessary. Although the newer ones are getting better, ASIO drivers dedicated to an interface remain the best option.

ASIO4ALL-based drivers have become accepted because sometimes they work. But it's good to remind people that its branded variants are just as problematic as standard ASIO4ALL, and programs install it willy-nilly so you can end up with four or five of them on your computer.

True story: I had a friend who was about to do a presentation to a group of important people on an audio interface that had excellent drivers. He used the interface all the time in his studio. For the presentation, he installed the drivers on his laptop for use with the interface and all hell broke loose. He was in a total panic and asked if I could help. The first thing I checked for was ASIO4ALL being installed bedause I'd run into a similar problem before that took me forever to figure out. As soon as I uninstalled it, everything worked fine.

The interesting thing is, it WAS the most recent version of Yamaha Steinberg's ASIO driver that was experiencing the trouble, not an ASIO 4 All driver.

But now suddenly, between switching drivers back and forth and restarting windows a couple of times, the problem has disappeared and things have resumed working the way they always have. So the topic is moot for now.

Let the band play on...

I just wanted to say, I finally got around to Installing Studio One v6.6, from v6.2. I didn't need Dolby Atmos, and had a few projects running where I didn't want to upset the workflow. Now that v6.6 is running, I wanted to mention how much I like the Surround Delay plugin. Perfect for a particular track I'm using with an Arturia CMI-V (Fairlight) from the V Collection. The ambience from the Surround Delay is tremendous and enhances the stereo field wonderfully. TY Presonus! Nice job. I have sone both ambient and progressive textures in songs, that when used sparingly, really size up (pardon the pun), nicely.
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DaddyO wrote
The interesting thing is, it WAS the most recent version of Yamaha Steinberg's ASIO driver that was experiencing the trouble, not an ASIO 4 All driver.

But now suddenly, between switching drivers back and forth and restarting windows a couple of times, the problem has disappeared and things have resumed working the way they always have. So the topic is moot for now.

Let the band play on...

Sounds like you haven't removed them rather cast them aside. If so those issues will eventually be back.

Avoid ASIO4ALL and the Steinberg driver unless there is no choice..if you aren't using them remove and reboot (even if you aren't using them, don't just keep them hanging around, you will most likely experience further issues if so). If you have both installed at.the same time that will almost certainly be a disastrous conflict combination as they are similar beasts competing for the same resources, even if they aren't being used. You may also notice your computer performance being a lot better after removal.