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I never use third party utilities that will change my config. I will use monitoring utilities. I always do config adjustments manually. Makes a big difference.

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by reggie1979beatz on Fri Feb 03, 2023 7:03 am
Skijumptoes wroteJust give me vanilla


Love vanilla! One of the best flavors. And yes, I get your point completely.

Bye......:roll:
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by MisterE on Fri Feb 03, 2023 11:24 am
PreAl wrote
MisterE wroteThat "known issue" is also the normal course of events, as in something changes with Windows -- like Win11 being released -- and chipset specifiers like AMD in conjunction with motherboard manufacturers figure out how to accomodate the changes to insure that CPUs and motherboards run smoothly. That's usually accomplished through updating a motherboard's BIOS.


It's not the normal having to upgrade your bios before an OS upgrade.

We'll agree to disagree then. Not every PC will need an upgraded BIOS, but plenty of them will. That's why mobos have BIOSes.

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by reggie1979beatz on Fri Feb 03, 2023 11:32 am
Meh, toss it all! Throw your computers in the dump and get a stone plate and chisel. :lol:

Bye......:roll:
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by PreAl on Fri Feb 03, 2023 11:42 am
MisterE wrote
PreAl wroteIt's not the normal having to upgrade your bios before an OS upgrade.

We'll agree to disagree then. Not every PC will need an upgraded BIOS, but plenty of them will. That's why mobos have BIOSes.


I'm sure some motherboards may need it but it's hardly a common scenario or common practice.

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by MisterE on Fri Feb 03, 2023 9:12 pm
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MisterE wrote
PreAl wroteIt's not the normal having to upgrade your bios before an OS upgrade.

We'll agree to disagree then. Not every PC will need an upgraded BIOS, but plenty of them will. That's why mobos have BIOSes.


I'm sure some motherboards may need it but it's hardly a common scenario or common practice.

It is and has been commonplace all through Windows major version changes. My 20 years on Gearspace Music Computers forum doesn't make me all-knowing or always right. On the other hand, I've been following this stuff a long time. If you want to feel put out that you have to upgrade a BIOS, or wait for AMD or Intel to provide a fix after a major Windows version change, be my guest. But that's the way it is.

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by gregghart on Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:48 am
For most people with older (by older, I mean 3-5 years old), to go from Win10 to Win11, a BIOS upgrade may be required. At least BIOS changes will need to be made. TPM2.0 is a requirement. This is something that can be flashed from 1.2 to 2.0 via a BIOS upgrade. (If your mobo supports it).

Another thing on Modern OS's that many people had to upgrade their mother board for was UEFI, which allows for extended storage, and also much faster boot time. Windows 10 doesn't REQUIRE it, but it sure helps. Windows 11 requires it.

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by MisterE on Sat Feb 04, 2023 11:45 am
gregghart wroteFor most people with older (by older, I mean 3-5 years old), to go from Win10 to Win11, a BIOS upgrade may be required. At least BIOS changes will need to be made. TPM2.0 is a requirement. This is something that can be flashed from 1.2 to 2.0 via a BIOS upgrade. (If your mobo supports it).

Another thing on Modern OS's that many people had to upgrade their mother board for was UEFI, which allows for extended storage, and also much faster boot time. Windows 10 doesn't REQUIRE it, but it sure helps. Windows 11 requires it.

I had to upgrade the BIOS on my mobo (see signature) even with just a now two-year old 5600X CPU and other all-new at the time components before USB would work properly. Had to wait for an updated AMD AGESA. What the heck's that?

In AMD-land, according to Wikipedia, "the AMD Generic Encapsulated Software Architecture (AGESA) is a procedure library developed by Advanced Micro Devices (AMD), used to perform the Platform Initialization (PI) on mainboards using their AMD64 architecture. As part of the BIOS of such mainboards, AGESA is responsible for the initialization of the CPU cores, chipset, main memory, and the HyperTransport controller."

Once again, completely normal: new chipset (on mobos) = very possibly you need to upgrade your BIOS. How else can your system be expected to adapt if some new hardware or OS comes down the pike?

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