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gregghart wroteI didn't even have to set my processor to "Background processes." Everything is working like a champ.


And you did the right thing.

It's "background services" not processes,.and that's the root of a major misunderstanding. ASIO divers and pretty much any other driver aren't Windows services (but don't try to ask me what the NI hardware service is - that's a weird one) and nor is the application. There is a windows audio service but that's not being used with ASIO and in the grand scheme of things it ain't gonna improve if you shove this and every other windows service into the foreground.

So definitely don't do that unless you are running Windows NT (where it used to happen). It is legacy advice that never seems to go away, you only do this if you want your client computer to behave more like a server (really bad idea!).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_service

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotne ... ws-service

Sadly Presonus has not removed this advice (brought it up here before) ..

https://support.presonus.com/hc/en-us/a ... Windows-10

Presonus wroteProcessor scheduling determines which types of processing are given a higher priority by Windows. The default setting is to devote more to your programs. This seems good on the surface; however, audio drivers run in the background, and NOT as separate programs. In order to get the most performance from audio gear, it is best to set your processor to handle background services first.


Do not do this...
Sorry this is one of my triggers, that and when people think they can improve performance by disabling UAD or running apps as admin.

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by gregghart on Mon Jan 16, 2023 6:11 am
Did you mean UAC? User Account Control? Sorry...I always disable that. It causes issues with too many things not launching. Also, there are times when you need to run apps as admin, but yeah, it isn't going to improve performance, but it may give the app more permissions...which really has never made sense to me since most users (especially on home PCs are admin anyway).

Usually it's just things like Command Prompt that need to be run as admin in CERTAIN situations only. But, that's what I do for a living. Thankfully, most of those things don't have to trickle down to everyday / home / studio use.

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by PreAl on Mon Jan 16, 2023 7:23 am
Yup User Account Control. See here for reasons (not the best article, there are other reasons it does not cover):

https://www.howtogeek.com/124754/htg-ex ... sable-uac/

Giving apps any more permissions than what they actually need is always a bad thing for security.

The only reason you need to launch as admin is perhaps when you are registering software with legacy apps, or to do some back end OS related stuff (yes like command prompt). Installers anyway should prompt to launch as admin (unless you have UAC disabled, and that's where.you permissions can get in a muddle).

There are a few very very old ancient plugins (tiny amount) that need admin permission but you simply need to change registry permissions for the particular registry hive and you are fine again. These facilities are here to protect you.(in the background, they aren't just there to nag you).

BTW admin user account permissions are different from application user account permissions. A virus infected in your account isn't automatically going to get your admin permissions if you are logged in as admin. If it got in via your browser it's not gonna get admin permissions unless it's found a back door, on the other hand if you ran chrome as admin then it's in and you are screwed. Then it will try to install software (it's payload), if you have UAC enabled then you will see something popup asking for permissions (when you didn't click anything), and then you will wonder what the heck is going on, but if you've got UAC disabled... then you have no idea what is going on, you weren't even warned.

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by marinsubasic1 on Thu Jan 19, 2023 1:39 pm
Happy new year!

Had some funny behaviour, panning a vst only does it when I miove the volume fader

Sometimes adjusting clip volume, just doesn´t have any effect..

Am I the only one?

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by Lokeyfly on Fri Jan 20, 2023 7:24 pm
marinsubasic1 wroteHappy new year!

Had some funny behaviour, panning a vst only does it when I miove the volume fader

Sometimes adjusting clip volume, just doesn´t have any effect..

Am I the only one?

Cheers

Happy New Year, marinsubasic1! You win the award for Late New Year Greetings in 23'! :+1

Sounds like you have some remapped rotary encoders. You might try starting a new song, and check the settings on your controller. Try another preset just to isolate the problem.

Volume will always read, write, touch, or latch depending on how you've set them. I haven't seen this issue yet, but then again I don't read all that many inquiries. If it still persists, capture it on screen, or open a ticket with customer support.

BTW, what exactly do you mean by clip volume? Event volume automation? Clips are audio clips in the pool. They dont have volume (effectively) until dragged into the arrangement.

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by gregghart on Mon Jan 23, 2023 11:46 am
PreAl wroteYup User Account Control. See here for reasons (not the best article, there are other reasons it does not cover):

https://www.howtogeek.com/124754/htg-ex ... sable-uac/

Giving apps any more permissions than what they actually need is always a bad thing for security.

The only reason you need to launch as admin is perhaps when you are registering software with legacy apps, or to do some back end OS related stuff (yes like command prompt). Installers anyway should prompt to launch as admin (unless you have UAC disabled, and that's where.you permissions can get in a muddle).

There are a few very very old ancient plugins (tiny amount) that need admin permission but you simply need to change registry permissions for the particular registry hive and you are fine again. These facilities are here to protect you.(in the background, they aren't just there to nag you).

BTW admin user account permissions are different from application user account permissions. A virus infected in your account isn't automatically going to get your admin permissions if you are logged in as admin. If it got in via your browser it's not gonna get admin permissions unless it's found a back door, on the other hand if you ran chrome as admin then it's in and you are screwed. Then it will try to install software (it's payload), if you have UAC enabled then you will see something popup asking for permissions (when you didn't click anything), and then you will wonder what the heck is going on, but if you've got UAC disabled... then you have no idea what is going on, you weren't even warned.


Thanks. I do know how all this works. I've been doing IT for almost 40 years and currently am a 3rd level PACS Administrator (Server maintenance and design, Software Management, etc. for a major health care system. I also know enough that when I turn off UAC, I have other protections in place...as in VERY limited Internet access on my studio PC. I also know enough not to visit known nefarious websites like adult sites, Torrents, etc. on my actual computers I browse the net on. I'm also highly skilled in virus and malware cleanup, and know the difference between the two.

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by PreAl on Mon Jan 23, 2023 2:40 pm
The thing about security is that everything needs to be covered from all angles. The weakest areas is where a breach will take place. Your place could be fort knox but if you leave the window open... UAC is basically not much difference than SU (Super User) command in Linux. If I were a sysadmin in Linux and disabled that I would expect to get the sack, I would regard UAC as no different.. And legit websites do get hacked, it isn't just porn sites. You can't tell what is malicious or not just by a visual inspection. There is a chance you can get infected and never know until it's too late/you've infected everybody else (unless you've somehow managed to be able to mind meld with a PC like Spock). Regardless there is absolutely no need to disable UAC and every reason to enable it. The amount of machines I've seen with issues relating to UAC being disabled (e.g. apps having to run as admin (again bad idea) because they won't work any other way) is quite a lot. Anyway whatever works for you I guess, agree to disagree. I won't bore you with my qualifications or IT CV. Over and out.

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by reggie1979beatz on Mon Jan 30, 2023 5:42 pm
Hmmmmmmmmmmm. Well, in "7", the UAC was garbage for sure. Every time I'd do a clean install/install on a new system I'd ditch it. From 10 on, it seems to be better for someone like me who is a casual user. Guess I maybe should do some more research.

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by reggie1979beatz on Mon Jan 30, 2023 5:44 pm
Oh and back to 6.02, still love it. Purring like a kitten here. YMMV.

Bye......:roll:
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by PreAl on Wed Mar 08, 2023 3:57 pm
Well a considerable amount of time has passed since the last update.That means the next version is probably 6.1.0 rather than a 6.0.3 sadly. I get the feeling 6.1.0 is gonna be feature rich (to encourage those who haven't to upgrade).

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by gregghart on Wed Mar 08, 2023 7:57 pm
Good speculation for sure! I am actually pretty happy with what it has now. Honestly, the only thing I'd like to see, a slightly better piano roll editor. Cakewalk's is still the best out there visually. I just prefer the workflow of Studio One so much more.

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For sure I am in the minority here, but I would really love to see collapsable options (those left of the piano roll). My second monitor which I use for MIDI is placed vertically to see pretty much every octave at once.

Now, that works all great, but I dont need to see those settings on the left all the time (audtion notes, default velocity, scale, input & current chord, etc.).

Would save approx 20% of horizontal screen real estate for me! :thumbup:

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by StuBabe on Fri Mar 10, 2023 2:38 pm
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by jazzundso on Mon Mar 13, 2023 7:50 pm
gregghart wroteHonestly, the only thing I'd like to see, a slightly better piano roll editor.

Can you be a little more specific? "Do it better" is a pretty vague task (and highly subjective) ;) What are you missing? What would you like to see improved?

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by gregghart on Tue Mar 14, 2023 8:52 am
Sorry. You are right, I should have been more specific. Basically, look at the Piano Roll editor for FL Studio. In my opinion, it's got one of the best piano roll editors out there. It's about the only thing FL Studio has that I like.

One the things that I really like is that you can press and hold the middle mouse button anywhere on the piano roll and it "grabs" the piano roll and lets you scroll it in any direction, up, down, left, right....basically, like grabbing the title bar of a window, but it does it within the program. Hard to explain. Might have to watch a video for that...I know...the middle button in Studio One opens the tool menu. But what about mapping it to a control key along with the middle button...or something. It's a SUPER handy feature.

The quick legato feature is also super nice. It connects all selected notes so there are no spaces or overlaps between them. Right now, I use Quantize Notes and set the beginning and endings to be affected, but that doesn't always work, because sometimes the spaces between the notes aren't the same as the grid you might have it set up.

Also, the Control Editor...I love how it puts the line at the top of each velocity or control that extends to the length of the note. Makes it much easier to line up velcoties, or other control features.

The slide function is also nice. Basically, it will portamento any note without having to set pitch bend on your keyboard.

Don't get me wrong, I love Studio One. For me, it is the best daw. And I do like the piano editor it comes with, but these are just a few features that I think FL Studio may do better. Now, I've never USED Fl Studio, but from what I've observed from friends and some YouTube vids, I do like THOSE features. FL Studio for the most part seems to have a horrible workflow for a lot of what it can do, but it does shine in a few areas.

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by jazzundso on Tue Mar 14, 2023 9:39 am
Thanks for elaborating - Piano roll editor is one of my favorite topics related to DAWs :)
I'm a little confused because you previously said Cakewalk has the best piano roll editor (visually) but now you're talking about FL Studio - but you have never used it.

Middle mouse button: Yes, this indeed sounds useful to me (although I don't have and never had a middle mouse button).

Quick legato: I'm not sure how this works but Studio One also has something like a legato tool (editing overlapping notes while holding alt) which it pretty unique. But "connecting all selected notes" is only one click (or keystroke) away with the "Legato + No Overlaps" button/macro.

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I wonder how this could be easier?

Slide function: That's not really a MIDI editing feature actually. This slide feature in FL Studio only works with FL Studio stock instruments or raw samples. The editor is directly talking to the instrument. But if you use any other 3rd-party plug-in such as Serum or Nexus, you need to use pitchbend automation in FL Studio just the same way as in Studio One. And classical synth portamento is possible in Studio One easily as well if you make the notes overlap and set the mono/glide parameter in the synthesizer.

Velocity editing: I'm curious about that one. Can you show an example how this simplifies editing velocity?

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by gregghart on Tue Mar 14, 2023 1:48 pm
Dude! Thank you for showing me that macro! I have not really used the macros and frankly, that's dumb of me. That is brilliant.

You are right, I did mention Cakewalk has a visually more appealing Piano Roll, and then went on about FL Studio...which visually isn't as good as neither Cakewalk or Studio One...Sorry about that. Wasn't intentional. I just like some of those features, though now that you showed me the legato macro and explained slide...I've changed my opinion...the only thing left is the hand grab tool for moving around the piano roll and the Control editor. I can't really show you how it is easier...I tried to explain it, but probably failed. I just like that it puts the bar across the top of the line that equals the note length. Then you can grab that bar anywhere to adjust the controller.

As far as Cakewalk visually, Honestly, it may seem trivial to some, but I like how when you hover over a note or an empty space to place a note, that it highlights the ENTIRE roll over to the Piano....and it's a nice shade so you can see for sure what note you are on. It also highlights the key better. On Studio One, while it does highlight the key, it's REALLY hard to see the highlighting on the black keys. This would be solved if the entire row highlighted from the selected note all the way to the left onto the piano. Also, on Cakewalk, the key you select also shows the name of the key. (F5, G4, etc). While I understand Studio One puts a tool tip over a note that is already there, it does NOT do it over an empty grid space.

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Also, thanks again for not taking this as a personal attack against Studio One. I absolutely love it and have used it since Cakewalk (the company) went under. I am glad that Bandlab took it over and are still offering it for free to people, but I really don't like it after discovering Studio One. Studio One is just so much....simpler. It almost seems like Cakewalk is confusing now. The only reason I have it installed is for archival purposes.

Honestly, the piano roll is the only real thing I would like to see upgraded...if even just for the highlighted rows. I can live without the top lines on the Controller editors.

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by jazzundso on Tue Mar 14, 2023 2:03 pm
Thanks again for the answer. I didn't intend to change your opinion... though... :mrgreen:
I can definitely see how highlighting the hovered pitch can be useful for note input.

Macros are extremely powerful and many people either underestimate or are afraid of them (but don't need to!). I can only encourage everyone to dive into macros because there's so much potential.

I have made a video last year that shows all the essentials about macros and that I also understand as a macro manual, in which you can always look up how things work.

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Last video for today - the legato tool:

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Also, thanks again for not taking this as a personal attack against Studio One.

Not at all. I love discussing features ;)

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by PreAl on Tue Mar 14, 2023 3:49 pm
Glad to see sensible discussions taking place.

I always found 'personal attacks" against applications an amusing concept, some forums handle it better than others ;) This one (mostly) is on the right side thank gawd.

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