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Sorry for not RTFMing first, this just popped into the brain sitting in a traffic jam :twisted:

Is there a way to see the frequency distribution in the stereo field? With stock or 3rd party plugins.. does not matter.

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by SwitchBack on Thu Aug 18, 2022 3:55 am
Maybe something like this? If not then at least the page will give you a few keywords to widen your search.
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by Tacman7 on Thu Aug 18, 2022 6:37 am
A splitter can do frequency splits.

SplitFreq5.gif

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SwitchBack wroteMaybe something like this? If not then at least the page will give you a few keywords to widen your search.


Close. Some graph that shows which frequencies go out mid and which go out side / LCR. Although I can not see the actual Hz here, it already gives a good indication of how much energy goes in which direction.

It would be great for example, if that lower left chart would be color coded based on freqency, like in a spectrogram. Or maybe spectrograms already do this and I just answered my own question? lol :roll: :punk: not sure.. more investigation needed.

Tacman7 wroteA splitter can do frequency splits.

SplitFreq5.gif


How would this show the frequency distribution? I do not actually want to split anything, I am just looking for something that can show me "which freqs live where" in the stereo field in order to make certain orchestration or mixing decisions. But thank you for taking the effort to record all that!

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by SwitchBack on Thu Aug 18, 2022 8:31 am
What about a combination? Use the splitter to set up a handful of frequency bands and insert a PAZ frequency analyser in each branch. That will show you where the highs, high-mids, mids, low-mids and lows go. Maybe not exactly what you wanted, but close ;)
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by Tacman7 on Thu Aug 18, 2022 8:33 am
You mean like this stuff?
https://s1manual.presonus.com/#Built-In ... 257C_____2

Splitters are really neat though...

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Tacman7 wroteYou mean like this stuff?
https://s1manual.presonus.com/#Built-In ... 257C_____2

Splitters are really neat though...


Honestly, I've never really dove much into spectrum analyzers because I always thought that just using an EQ plugin was more flexible. But this is really cool! Thank you for that suggestion.

And I agree regarding splitters. I am mostly an orchestral composer type of guy, but I am working on a metal track at the moment to "slightly" shift from the status quo, and do something different.

You reminded of a great use of the splitter: keeping bass centered - which is something important for metal (or rock bands in general), but not used in orchestral due to the placement of the basses always being on the right.

Using the splitter I can easily just filter out everything under 150Hz, and use a mixtool to swap one channel and be in mono for those lower freq's.

Nice.. you learn something new every day ;)

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by Jemusic on Thu Aug 18, 2022 1:12 pm
You could go into M/S mode and treat the sides differently to the centre. eg have a thinner sound in the sides. Solid bass sound in the centre. Then convert back to stereo.

There are some plugins (Boz Digital Labs) that do it too. Mongoose for example centres all the low end in your mix below a cutoff frequency and this can be adjusted.

https://www.bozdigitallabs.com/product/mongoose/

You could set up the same sort of signal path using the channel editor in Studio One

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by razorwit on Sun Aug 21, 2022 9:03 am
Hey bastiaanmarcscholtemeijer
I've been down a similar rabbit hole for a few weeks and here's how I ended up doing it -

Drop Voxengo MSED on the track or bus you want to analyze, followed by Dual Pan, and then FabFilter Pro-Q. Open both all three and then you can use MSED and Dual Pan to manipulate what is shown in the Pro-Q analyzer. MSED is free, and allows you to manipulate M/S stuff, Dual Pan allows stereo pan manipulation.

Note - any old analyzer will do, I just use Pro-Q because it's kinda my default.

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razorwit wroteHey bastiaanmarcscholtemeijer
I've been down a similar rabbit hole for a few weeks and here's how I ended up doing it -

Drop Voxengo MSED on the track or bus you want to analyze, followed by Dual Pan, and then FabFilter Pro-Q. Open both all three and then you can use MSED and Dual Pan to manipulate what is shown in the Pro-Q analyzer. MSED is free, and allows you to manipulate M/S stuff, Dual Pan allows stereo pan manipulation.

Note - any old analyzer will do, I just use Pro-Q because it's kinda my default.

Dean


Thank you for your suggestion Dean. Will try that.

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