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Now and then, while working on a song, I'd discover that all the tracks had shifted into this odd mode where the track header showed "Display: Off" (Huh?), and the record button and volume slider had disappeared. The F4 Inspector could reveal the record and monitor buttons but not the volume. If I clicked on the Display Off, I could select Volume and not only adjust the overall level but set the track's volume levels for the whole song.

Nice to know, but most of the time I just wanted to adjust the track's volume to get a basic mix. Fine-tuning volume would come later. The Inspector took up screen space and was unnecessary to what I was doing. It was irritating, and the worst part was that I couldn't figure out why or how I had switched into that mode and how to get out of it. Later, I learned that I could right-click a track and deselect Show/Hide Automation, which would get that track back to what I wanted, but I had to do that to all of them. (Later, sheepishly, I realized I could select all the tracks and switch them out of automation mode with one click.) (Still later I discovered the sawtooth icon at the top of the track list.)

But how did I get there in the first place? And why did it sometimes go back into that mode after I'd gone through switching it off? I went through all the wrench settings on the theory that I was somehow accidentally triggering automation mode. Nope. The select-all-and-unautomate was my best remedy until I discovered the show/hide button. Was I triggering it by accident? I didn't see how.

I was following an unrelated thread here when someone casually remarked about using the 'a' key to slip into and out of automation, and my eyes bugged out. Whut?

Oh. The 'a' key toggles in and out of automation mode, whether or not you want it to.

For me, that's an accident waiting to happen. Now that I know how to switch back and forth, it's not a big problem. But I'm probably going to delete that keyboard shortcut since there's a handy one-click alternative. And I'm going to go through the shortcuts looking for unmodified keys that trigger changes. I may not delete them all, but I sure want to know about them.

Of course, now that I know the answer, I can find it in Help.

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by reggie1979beatz on Fri Aug 12, 2022 7:55 pm
I might be wrong, but I'm pretty sure you can delete that command in keyboard shortcuts.

Bye......:roll:
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by jazzundso on Fri Aug 12, 2022 9:51 pm
Yes, that's how software works. You press a key and something happens. No matter if that's Studio One, Photoshop or Microsoft PowerPoint. It's part of the normal learning curve :-)

Great that Studio One allows us to customize these shortcuts, create our own shortcuts or delete them we don't want to use.

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by ianaeillo on Sat Aug 13, 2022 1:20 am
Huh?

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by leosutherland on Sat Aug 13, 2022 2:37 am
ianaeillo wroteHuh?

Huh, back at you?

...said Halo

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by reggie1979beatz on Sat Aug 13, 2022 7:07 am
leosutherland wrote
ianaeillo wroteHuh?

Huh, back at you?


Image

Bye......:roll:
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by Lokeyfly on Sat Aug 13, 2022 7:29 am
thomasforeman wrote
.....Oh. The 'a' key toggles in and out of automation mode, whether or not you want it to.

For me, that's an accident waiting to happen. Now that I know how to switch back and forth, it's not a big problem. But I'm probably going to delete that keyboard shortcut since there's a handy one-click alternative. And I'm going to go through the shortcuts looking for unmodified keys that trigger changes. I may not delete them all, but I sure want to know about them.


You bet. Really know about them!

What jazzundso said, ill simply embellish on. With any configurable software, there are key commands that introduce shortcuts, macros that speed up a process. While Toolbars, ribbons and what have you, are very helpful indeed, especially to newcomers or just by preference, key commands are the fastest and most streamlined way to make changes once those commands and aliases are understood.

To really get the most out of Studio One, any DAW, graphics oriented, engineering, and other productivity software, take the time to learn key commands. At the very least, what to touch and what not to touch. :?

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by reggie1979beatz on Sat Aug 13, 2022 8:38 am
Hey guys, I don't mean to be mr. "snootie toots" ... but I said that ;)

Anyways, did we loose the OP?

Bye......:roll:
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by Lokeyfly on Sat Aug 13, 2022 9:05 am
reggie1979beatz wroteHey guys, I don't mean to be mr. "snootie toots" ... but I said that ;)

Anyways, did we loose the OP?


@ Mr. Snooty toots: yes you did say "that".

How dare we ride the coat tails of any Mr. Snootie toots!

We will serve penants at zero four hundred hours and think about our behavior.
Oh, the shame. Tsk, tsk, tsk.
Signed:
Shamely toots. :oops:

FWIW, the OP did also go into the Track Inspector [F4] real estate interference, and realization of key assign importance. ;)
Thought we might agree.

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by leosutherland on Sat Aug 13, 2022 9:22 am
reggie1979beatz wrote
leosutherland wrote
ianaeillo wroteHuh?

Huh, back at you?


Image

I meant, why did ianaeillio say "Huh?" - it did not seem to have any relevance to what had gone before? :?

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by reggie1979beatz on Sat Aug 13, 2022 9:37 am
GRRRRRRRRRR, bad quoting technique!

No, I was just making a funny pic about it. I too was like like "huh" to the "huh" ;)

BTW, guess the movie and win a prize!

Bye......:roll:
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by leosutherland on Sat Aug 13, 2022 10:43 am
reggie1979beatz wroteGRRRRRRRRRR, bad quoting technique!

No, I was just making a funny pic about it. I too was like like "huh" to the "huh" ;)

BTW, guess the movie and win a prize!

No worries, huh? :)

Um, I don't even recognise the actor :? Me not good with faces.....or voices.....or names for that matter.

I should just retire and make music :thumbup:

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by roland1 on Sat Aug 13, 2022 11:00 am
What if you just removed the "a" key from your keyboard? That would work.

Better safe than sorry.




[P.S. You're not supposed to press "a" until you want to. And when you do, nothing happens. The track just goes into a different mode. Groove 3 has some good "Studio One 5 Explained" videos you can watch to learn the whole program. It's worth spending the $15 for a month of learning.]

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by reggie1979beatz on Sat Aug 13, 2022 12:00 pm
leosutherland wrote
reggie1979beatz wroteGRRRRRRRRRR, bad quoting technique!

No, I was just making a funny pic about it. I too was like like "huh" to the "huh" ;)

BTW, guess the movie and win a prize!

No worries, huh? :)

Um, I don't even recognise the actor :? Me not good with faces.....or voices.....or names for that matter.

I should just retire and make music :thumbup:


He's ultra popular but that was a REALLY bad movie.

Bye......:roll:
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by thomasforeman on Mon Aug 15, 2022 11:37 am
I'm glad to have stimulated so much fun among the cognoscenti, and no doubt I am an ignorant doofus. But I was trying to get at what I see as a persistent problem that I wish we could fix. Learning is hard. Rather than show you how to get things done, documentation tends to focus on all the many possibilities. Am I the only one who has read documentation on some topic and wound up more confused than when I started?

I tend to use automation track by track, and seldom, if ever, have felt the need to look at it on all of them at the same time. Especially those without automation. Tutorials tend to focus on what you do with automation, not how you get there or escape back to normal view. I knew I was triggering something somehow but it wasn't clear what it was for or how I got there. My post described the slow process by which I figured it out and how I stumbled on the answer reading a post on a completely different topic.

If I suspected it might be something to do with automation, and searched Keyboard Shortcuts, guess what doesn't show up? 'A' is assigned to "Track - Show Envelopes", which sounds like it is concerned with only individual tracks. No mention of automation. And to me, envelopes are things you put other things in, not surgery on the contents. One learns the jargon, but it isn't clear at first.

Perhaps I should have asked here, but it's such a low level question that I never thought of it or hesitated to expose my ignorance. We might need a section devoted to Dumb Questions From Beginners. The Help system explains what Key Commands (or is it Keyboard Shortcuts) do, how to list them and change them. There doesn't seem to be a way to list only those that have been assigned, let alone grouped by related functions.

Once you know where to look and what to look for, the documentation on Studio One is pretty good. It's not very good on guiding us though the process of learning. Training videos from Joe and Gregor and others have greatly eased the confusion, but there's no functional index of them. It's very time-consuming to watch or re-watch them without knowing whether they address your question or not.

I may remove the 'A' shortcut, and perhaps some others where the actual commands are in plain sight. But I'll probably leave it alone since I know how to fix it now.

I'm not really complaining here; I'm griping, which is different. (Anyone with military service will know.) But I think we need -- generally, not just Studio One -- top down help systems that begin with concepts and tasks and work down to the details rather than a laundry list of details whose application is uncertain.

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by SwitchBack on Mon Aug 15, 2022 11:47 am
roland1 wroteWhat if you just removed the "a" key from your keyboard? That would work.

Better safe than sorry.
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by roland1 on Mon Aug 15, 2022 11:48 am
If pressing "a" led to a macro that said "remove all envelopes" I would have changed it by now.

Unless you have fingers that are as wide as quarters, you'll probably never touch the "a" accidentally. And if you do, then touch it again, but this time armed with will and determination, and grace, too.

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by reggie1979beatz on Mon Aug 15, 2022 11:52 am
thomasforeman wrote and no doubt I am an ignorant doofus.


0 . 0% chance! However, I don't understand how simply deleting the "a" doesn't solve your problem.

Bye......:roll:
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by shanabit on Mon Aug 15, 2022 6:09 pm
Change that key command to a different key, problem solved. No accidental mode shifting

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by ianaeillo on Mon Aug 15, 2022 7:08 pm
leosutherland wroteI meant, why did ianaeillio say "Huh?" - it did not seem to have any relevance to what had gone before? :?


Heh. I was just confused about what they were talking about and tried to reply originally without sounding condescending. I completely forgot that I actually just wrote “huh?”

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