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So I have a very old PC with with an AMD 6 core processor that worked fine with my MOTU USB audio modules but I cannot get a consistent connection between it and my StudioLive 32SX mixer. Sometimes It will connect but most times if fails and gives me an initialization error message in Studio One 5 and on the mixer screen. I've tried every USB port on the machine and still have the same USB dropout problem.

So I've had it with this machine. I am now looking to build a new Windows based PC with an intel board and CPU. I know many of you in here have done this recently so I thought I would ask for advice on which components are stable for you. I'm a songwriter who records instruments one at a time along with using MIDI files for rhythms (addictive drums etc) and I use digital instruments and external sound modules. I need stable connections. If I have to keep rebooting the mixer or the PC I can't get anything done. So what combos are working for you guys:

Motherboard: chipset, brand
CPU: generation,
Memory:DDR4, DDR5
USB driver/chip: Intel, other

I appreciate any advice.
thank you,
Barry

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ASUS ROG STRIX B550-F Gaming MB with AMD Ryzen 5 5600X CPU 64GB RAM Windows 10 Pro, StudioLive 32SX, Studio One 6.0 5E3 Tweed Deluxe, AB763 Deluxe Reverb, Vox AC15, Marshall 18 Watt, AA1164 Princeton Reverb, Marshall JVM2000 DSL401, Original Fender Cyber Twin, BadCat Cougar, Fender Rumble 100, Fender 2003 AMDlx Strat, Fender 2004 HH Strat, Dean Hardtail, G&L ASAT Classic, Aria Pro PE-ANNIV, , Alvarez Dana II, Kramer Focus 3000, Fender Active Jazz Bass, Blueridge BR-180A, Alvarez Yairi DY-46, 1996 Ovation Balladeer, 1995 Epi Dot, 2021 Epi 1959 Les Paul Standard.
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by Vocalpoint on Mon Jan 03, 2022 3:57 pm
Happy New Year Barry!

Here is what I built in April 2021:

Motherboard: ASUS ProArt Z490-Creator
Chipset: Intel Z490
CPU: Intel Core™i5 10600K (LGA1200)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB (CMK16GX4M2B3200C16)
Graphics: Intel® UHD Graphics 630

Its about a stable as it gets. If I were to re-tweak it now - I might consider an 11th gen Intel CPU but the returns are minimal at best.

I am also about to upgrade to my first USB Based audio interface in about a week (RME Fireface UCX II) after rocking my RME Multiface II for the last 12 years. Looking forward to getting the new unit in here and putting it thru it's paces.

Hope this helps. See my sig below for other stuff that is part of the main DAW here.

Cheers!

VP

DAW: Studio One Pro 6.5.1.96553 | Host OS: Windows 10 Pro 22H2 | Motherboard: ASUS PRIME z790-A | CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-13600K | RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 64GB | Graphics: Intel UHD 770 (HDMI) | Audio Interface: RME UCX II (v1.246) | OS Drive : Samsung 990 PRO (1TB) | Media Drive: Samsung 970 EVO Plus (500GB) | Libraries: Samsung 970 EVO+ (2TB) | Samples : Seagate FireCuda (2TB) | Monitoring: Presonus Monitor Station v2 + Presonus Eris 5 | MIDI Control: Native Instruments Komplete S61 & Presonus ATOM
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by barrywitt on Mon Jan 03, 2022 5:01 pm
Happy New Year VP. Thanks for the response. I'll take a look at those components.

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ASUS ROG STRIX B550-F Gaming MB with AMD Ryzen 5 5600X CPU 64GB RAM Windows 10 Pro, StudioLive 32SX, Studio One 6.0 5E3 Tweed Deluxe, AB763 Deluxe Reverb, Vox AC15, Marshall 18 Watt, AA1164 Princeton Reverb, Marshall JVM2000 DSL401, Original Fender Cyber Twin, BadCat Cougar, Fender Rumble 100, Fender 2003 AMDlx Strat, Fender 2004 HH Strat, Dean Hardtail, G&L ASAT Classic, Aria Pro PE-ANNIV, , Alvarez Dana II, Kramer Focus 3000, Fender Active Jazz Bass, Blueridge BR-180A, Alvarez Yairi DY-46, 1996 Ovation Balladeer, 1995 Epi Dot, 2021 Epi 1959 Les Paul Standard.
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by georgegidzinski on Mon Jan 03, 2022 6:04 pm
I am doing a new build this week. I went with intel i7 9700K, 3.6 ghz base speed/8 cores, 32G ram, mb video and audio, 500Ghz ms ssd system drive, 1TB 7200 rpm sata data drive.


George

S1 Pro 5.5.0, W10 Pro 64, Gigabyte H310M S2P/i7 9700K 3.6Ghz 6C/32G ram/Crucial 500G SSD/Asus GT730/1TB WD Blue/Asus 32" mon, Audient ID14, Yam HS5/JBL 305P MkII/Kali LP6, Easy D 2, Addictive D 2, Slate Trigger 2, Fab Filter, Softube, Soundtoys, Waves, Slate PI's, Melodyne, Nektar GX49, Yamaha P71, WA73, WA2A, 1176 Bluey, Distressor, DBX160, Sansamp RBI, Palmer PI03, E drum kit based on Rol/Yam/acoustic conv, Strats/Tele/LP, Fender Mustang/Schecter basses, Martin DM,home built tube amps, WA47jr, C414xls, MD421, KM184, ATM450, M160 & just enough confidence to be dangerous
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by barrywitt on Mon Jan 03, 2022 9:18 pm
Which motherboard George?

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ASUS ROG STRIX B550-F Gaming MB with AMD Ryzen 5 5600X CPU 64GB RAM Windows 10 Pro, StudioLive 32SX, Studio One 6.0 5E3 Tweed Deluxe, AB763 Deluxe Reverb, Vox AC15, Marshall 18 Watt, AA1164 Princeton Reverb, Marshall JVM2000 DSL401, Original Fender Cyber Twin, BadCat Cougar, Fender Rumble 100, Fender 2003 AMDlx Strat, Fender 2004 HH Strat, Dean Hardtail, G&L ASAT Classic, Aria Pro PE-ANNIV, , Alvarez Dana II, Kramer Focus 3000, Fender Active Jazz Bass, Blueridge BR-180A, Alvarez Yairi DY-46, 1996 Ovation Balladeer, 1995 Epi Dot, 2021 Epi 1959 Les Paul Standard.
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by georgegidzinski on Mon Jan 03, 2022 9:56 pm
Gigabyte H310M S2P motherboard
Intel i7 9700K cpu
Crucial CT500P2SSD8 SSD
WD WD10EZEX HD
Crucial CT2K16G4DFD8266 RAM
Corsair CX550 PS

I like to build value so these are "should be good enough" choices not the best possible future proofing choices. This is my 10th desktop build and they usually last me around 10 years. My current DAW computers are around 10 year old.

George

S1 Pro 5.5.0, W10 Pro 64, Gigabyte H310M S2P/i7 9700K 3.6Ghz 6C/32G ram/Crucial 500G SSD/Asus GT730/1TB WD Blue/Asus 32" mon, Audient ID14, Yam HS5/JBL 305P MkII/Kali LP6, Easy D 2, Addictive D 2, Slate Trigger 2, Fab Filter, Softube, Soundtoys, Waves, Slate PI's, Melodyne, Nektar GX49, Yamaha P71, WA73, WA2A, 1176 Bluey, Distressor, DBX160, Sansamp RBI, Palmer PI03, E drum kit based on Rol/Yam/acoustic conv, Strats/Tele/LP, Fender Mustang/Schecter basses, Martin DM,home built tube amps, WA47jr, C414xls, MD421, KM184, ATM450, M160 & just enough confidence to be dangerous
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by barrywitt on Mon Jan 03, 2022 10:06 pm
Thanks for the info George. Good luck on the build. Let me know how she performs.

Crankin' out the tone

ASUS ROG STRIX B550-F Gaming MB with AMD Ryzen 5 5600X CPU 64GB RAM Windows 10 Pro, StudioLive 32SX, Studio One 6.0 5E3 Tweed Deluxe, AB763 Deluxe Reverb, Vox AC15, Marshall 18 Watt, AA1164 Princeton Reverb, Marshall JVM2000 DSL401, Original Fender Cyber Twin, BadCat Cougar, Fender Rumble 100, Fender 2003 AMDlx Strat, Fender 2004 HH Strat, Dean Hardtail, G&L ASAT Classic, Aria Pro PE-ANNIV, , Alvarez Dana II, Kramer Focus 3000, Fender Active Jazz Bass, Blueridge BR-180A, Alvarez Yairi DY-46, 1996 Ovation Balladeer, 1995 Epi Dot, 2021 Epi 1959 Les Paul Standard.
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by georgegidzinski on Mon Jan 03, 2022 11:13 pm
Will do. Nice amp collection.


George

S1 Pro 5.5.0, W10 Pro 64, Gigabyte H310M S2P/i7 9700K 3.6Ghz 6C/32G ram/Crucial 500G SSD/Asus GT730/1TB WD Blue/Asus 32" mon, Audient ID14, Yam HS5/JBL 305P MkII/Kali LP6, Easy D 2, Addictive D 2, Slate Trigger 2, Fab Filter, Softube, Soundtoys, Waves, Slate PI's, Melodyne, Nektar GX49, Yamaha P71, WA73, WA2A, 1176 Bluey, Distressor, DBX160, Sansamp RBI, Palmer PI03, E drum kit based on Rol/Yam/acoustic conv, Strats/Tele/LP, Fender Mustang/Schecter basses, Martin DM,home built tube amps, WA47jr, C414xls, MD421, KM184, ATM450, M160 & just enough confidence to be dangerous
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by patm300e on Tue Jan 04, 2022 12:53 pm
I went overboard and did an I9 see my signature... It performs well.

I typically don't do a lot of MIDI, but plan on increasing this as I have a new MIDI Keyboard and a set of electronic drums now.

Studio One 5.1 Professional on Home built i9 10900K on ASUS Z490 Prime-A with 32 GB RAM 64-bit Windows 10 Pro Premium 500GB M2 WD Black SSD (OS) 1TB M2 WD Black SSD Data Drive. Behringer U-Phoria UMC204HD, and/or XR-18 USB 2.0 Interface. Single FaderPort , Behringer X-Touch control. Ozone 10 Advanced, Various Waves Plug-ins including Nx with Head Tracker and Ocean Way Nashville and Abbey Road studios.M-Audio Oxygen Pro Mini 32-Mini-Key Keyboard Controller, You Rock Guitar [Gen 2] Guitar MIDI Controller. Alesis DM10 MKII Studio Kit Electronic Drum Set.
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by georgegidzinski on Wed Jan 05, 2022 3:05 pm
Any thoughts on a 27" vs 32" monitor?

Any thoughts on the new ultrawide models?

Any thoughts on flat vs curved?

Thanks,

George

S1 Pro 5.5.0, W10 Pro 64, Gigabyte H310M S2P/i7 9700K 3.6Ghz 6C/32G ram/Crucial 500G SSD/Asus GT730/1TB WD Blue/Asus 32" mon, Audient ID14, Yam HS5/JBL 305P MkII/Kali LP6, Easy D 2, Addictive D 2, Slate Trigger 2, Fab Filter, Softube, Soundtoys, Waves, Slate PI's, Melodyne, Nektar GX49, Yamaha P71, WA73, WA2A, 1176 Bluey, Distressor, DBX160, Sansamp RBI, Palmer PI03, E drum kit based on Rol/Yam/acoustic conv, Strats/Tele/LP, Fender Mustang/Schecter basses, Martin DM,home built tube amps, WA47jr, C414xls, MD421, KM184, ATM450, M160 & just enough confidence to be dangerous
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by mikemanthei on Wed Jan 05, 2022 3:13 pm
Just remember that a monitor is a flat reflective surface. Whatever sound is coming from behind you is going to bounce off that.... and create an audible mode / reflection so proper treatment of the back of your room is going to be critical if you use a large monitor. A curved monitor makes this even worse because it now focuses that audio as it bounces off this curved surface.

So curved monitors are really cool from a visual standpoint but damaging to your spatial accuracy

I had a chance to test a 39 inch ultrawide curved monitor in someone else's Studio. What was weird was the sound that was bouncing off the back wall on the right side of the room would reflect towards my left ear. So the audio was late and it was on the wrong side. Very confusing to mix that way

Studio One v2, 3, and 4 Professional
Presonus 1818VSL / Focusrite 18i20 / StudioLive 32S
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StudioLive 32S
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by georgegidzinski on Wed Jan 05, 2022 3:28 pm
Your thoughts on a curved monitor makes sense, I think I’ll stick with flat. Any thoughts on 27 vs 32”?

George

S1 Pro 5.5.0, W10 Pro 64, Gigabyte H310M S2P/i7 9700K 3.6Ghz 6C/32G ram/Crucial 500G SSD/Asus GT730/1TB WD Blue/Asus 32" mon, Audient ID14, Yam HS5/JBL 305P MkII/Kali LP6, Easy D 2, Addictive D 2, Slate Trigger 2, Fab Filter, Softube, Soundtoys, Waves, Slate PI's, Melodyne, Nektar GX49, Yamaha P71, WA73, WA2A, 1176 Bluey, Distressor, DBX160, Sansamp RBI, Palmer PI03, E drum kit based on Rol/Yam/acoustic conv, Strats/Tele/LP, Fender Mustang/Schecter basses, Martin DM,home built tube amps, WA47jr, C414xls, MD421, KM184, ATM450, M160 & just enough confidence to be dangerous
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by Vocalpoint on Wed Jan 05, 2022 3:36 pm
georgegidzinski wroteYour thoughts on a curved monitor makes sense, I think I’ll stick with flat. Any thoughts on 27 vs 32”?George


I did away with monitors completely and stuck a Samsung 42 inch flat screen TV on the wall. Can't see any need to go back to a comp monitor - especially when the cost begins to creep up in the larger sizes.

Now - if you are into tasks that go beyond just audio production with S1 (Gaming perhaps?) - then a dedicated computer monitor makes sense.

Cheers!

VP

DAW: Studio One Pro 6.5.1.96553 | Host OS: Windows 10 Pro 22H2 | Motherboard: ASUS PRIME z790-A | CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-13600K | RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 64GB | Graphics: Intel UHD 770 (HDMI) | Audio Interface: RME UCX II (v1.246) | OS Drive : Samsung 990 PRO (1TB) | Media Drive: Samsung 970 EVO Plus (500GB) | Libraries: Samsung 970 EVO+ (2TB) | Samples : Seagate FireCuda (2TB) | Monitoring: Presonus Monitor Station v2 + Presonus Eris 5 | MIDI Control: Native Instruments Komplete S61 & Presonus ATOM
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by georgegidzinski on Wed Jan 05, 2022 7:50 pm
The television solution is another good idea. I just did some math on how big the screen would have to be to use it in 1080 resolution and be comfortable for my old a^& eyes to be able to read everything comfortably based on the resolution that accomplished this on my current 24" monitor and it looks like 32" gets it done nicely.


George

S1 Pro 5.5.0, W10 Pro 64, Gigabyte H310M S2P/i7 9700K 3.6Ghz 6C/32G ram/Crucial 500G SSD/Asus GT730/1TB WD Blue/Asus 32" mon, Audient ID14, Yam HS5/JBL 305P MkII/Kali LP6, Easy D 2, Addictive D 2, Slate Trigger 2, Fab Filter, Softube, Soundtoys, Waves, Slate PI's, Melodyne, Nektar GX49, Yamaha P71, WA73, WA2A, 1176 Bluey, Distressor, DBX160, Sansamp RBI, Palmer PI03, E drum kit based on Rol/Yam/acoustic conv, Strats/Tele/LP, Fender Mustang/Schecter basses, Martin DM,home built tube amps, WA47jr, C414xls, MD421, KM184, ATM450, M160 & just enough confidence to be dangerous
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by davidlarson6 on Wed Jan 05, 2022 9:47 pm
I think display choice depends a lot on what you're specifically doing.

I have two 27" 4K display monitors, shared between two computers. That would be wildly overkill for probably most people, but I do orchestral scoring, and I need to see a whole score at the same time on one screen, while displaying tracks and mixer on the other.

And I sit pretty close to those screens, because my eyes are quite old, and those little eighth notes seem to be getting closer together with each passing year. :)

I'd say try mocking up the situation using what you have, and judge size, resolution, and placement from your actual work flow. There's no perfect solution.

DKLarson

Windows 10, i9, 64GB, 3X 1TB SSDs; Macbook Pro M1 Pro, 32GB, 1TB SSD
Audient iD14, Atom SQ, Keystep 37, Studiologic SL88, Moog Sub Phatty, Kawai MP11SE, Roli Seaboard.
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by barrywitt on Sat Jan 08, 2022 9:16 pm
I'm using two 27" LED monitors but I have Primeacoustic Broadway panels, bass traps and ceiling panels all over the room. Acoustic treatment is really important.

By the way, I built all of my amps and they are all hand wired beauties. You can't beat tube tone. I have Guitar rig, Amplitube, Ampwire and numerous outboard modeling units but nothing beats a real tube amp and a great microphone setup.

I have another thread going where I've been struggling for a year now trying to get my StudioLive 32SX to consistently connect to my desktop computer via USB to no avail. I've finally given up and am building a new computer.

I cannot believe the insane prices of MBs, CPUs and video cards. I had to settle for an AMD Ryzen 5 5900X with an ASUS ROG Strix B550-F Gaming motherboard and 64GB of DDR4 3200 memory. I am very hopeful that this new machine will cure my connectivity ills. I'll keep you posted. Let me know how your build goes.
Barry
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ASUS ROG STRIX B550-F Gaming MB with AMD Ryzen 5 5600X CPU 64GB RAM Windows 10 Pro, StudioLive 32SX, Studio One 6.0 5E3 Tweed Deluxe, AB763 Deluxe Reverb, Vox AC15, Marshall 18 Watt, AA1164 Princeton Reverb, Marshall JVM2000 DSL401, Original Fender Cyber Twin, BadCat Cougar, Fender Rumble 100, Fender 2003 AMDlx Strat, Fender 2004 HH Strat, Dean Hardtail, G&L ASAT Classic, Aria Pro PE-ANNIV, , Alvarez Dana II, Kramer Focus 3000, Fender Active Jazz Bass, Blueridge BR-180A, Alvarez Yairi DY-46, 1996 Ovation Balladeer, 1995 Epi Dot, 2021 Epi 1959 Les Paul Standard.
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by georgegidzinski on Sat Jan 08, 2022 9:42 pm
I too use my own tube amp builds and can find no amp sim worth a crap. The only thing I have found is to use Slate fg-x for a mild edge of breakup tone. It’s fair and the best I can do.


George

S1 Pro 5.5.0, W10 Pro 64, Gigabyte H310M S2P/i7 9700K 3.6Ghz 6C/32G ram/Crucial 500G SSD/Asus GT730/1TB WD Blue/Asus 32" mon, Audient ID14, Yam HS5/JBL 305P MkII/Kali LP6, Easy D 2, Addictive D 2, Slate Trigger 2, Fab Filter, Softube, Soundtoys, Waves, Slate PI's, Melodyne, Nektar GX49, Yamaha P71, WA73, WA2A, 1176 Bluey, Distressor, DBX160, Sansamp RBI, Palmer PI03, E drum kit based on Rol/Yam/acoustic conv, Strats/Tele/LP, Fender Mustang/Schecter basses, Martin DM,home built tube amps, WA47jr, C414xls, MD421, KM184, ATM450, M160 & just enough confidence to be dangerous
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by mycbeats on Tue Jan 11, 2022 9:41 am
I put together a list of components that should last you 8-10 years.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JNmdQD

I recommend getting an NVME SSD to use for a boot drive/programs/instruments and your current drive for documents/sessions.

I also recommend replacing the fans in your case with Noctua ones. You'll appreciate the silence of it when recording.

Toronto, Canada
Project engineer by day, sound connoisseur by night.

Main Rig: Windows 11 (21H2) 64-bit, Ryzen 3900x, 32GB RAM, RTX 2060, dual 4K Monitors
Presonus 192, Faderport v2, Atom SQ, Akai Advance 49, Keystation 61 mk3, 2x Behringer X-Touch Mini + way too many synths.

Mobile Rig: MBP M1/16GB, Atom SQ, IOstation
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by patm300e on Tue Jan 11, 2022 10:41 am
mycbeats wroteI put together a list of components that should last you 8-10 years.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JNmdQD

I recommend getting an NVME SSD to use for a boot drive/programs/instruments and your current drive for documents/sessions.

I also recommend replacing the fans in your case with Noctua ones. You'll appreciate the silence of it when recording.


This is a decent build that will do almost anything. So unless you pla on doing 30 Native Instrument instances you should be OK with this. Definitly agree about the Noctura fans they are very quiet.

Noticed there was no case, do you plan on reusing an old one. If not Look at Fractal Design. I used this one: https://www.fractal-design.com/products ... -r5/black/
It is a pretty large box for a "mid tower". It has a lot of flexibility in the cooling fan positions and nice wire routing.

Studio One 5.1 Professional on Home built i9 10900K on ASUS Z490 Prime-A with 32 GB RAM 64-bit Windows 10 Pro Premium 500GB M2 WD Black SSD (OS) 1TB M2 WD Black SSD Data Drive. Behringer U-Phoria UMC204HD, and/or XR-18 USB 2.0 Interface. Single FaderPort , Behringer X-Touch control. Ozone 10 Advanced, Various Waves Plug-ins including Nx with Head Tracker and Ocean Way Nashville and Abbey Road studios.M-Audio Oxygen Pro Mini 32-Mini-Key Keyboard Controller, You Rock Guitar [Gen 2] Guitar MIDI Controller. Alesis DM10 MKII Studio Kit Electronic Drum Set.
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by georgegidzinski on Tue Jan 11, 2022 12:32 pm
You went with 6 cores and 3.9ghz and I went with 8 cores and 3.6mhz. It would be interesting to see which trade off works best for S1. I may buy a used cpu to match your choice and compare.

George

S1 Pro 5.5.0, W10 Pro 64, Gigabyte H310M S2P/i7 9700K 3.6Ghz 6C/32G ram/Crucial 500G SSD/Asus GT730/1TB WD Blue/Asus 32" mon, Audient ID14, Yam HS5/JBL 305P MkII/Kali LP6, Easy D 2, Addictive D 2, Slate Trigger 2, Fab Filter, Softube, Soundtoys, Waves, Slate PI's, Melodyne, Nektar GX49, Yamaha P71, WA73, WA2A, 1176 Bluey, Distressor, DBX160, Sansamp RBI, Palmer PI03, E drum kit based on Rol/Yam/acoustic conv, Strats/Tele/LP, Fender Mustang/Schecter basses, Martin DM,home built tube amps, WA47jr, C414xls, MD421, KM184, ATM450, M160 & just enough confidence to be dangerous

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