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kisnou wrote I would love an option to enable/disable the Smart Tool. I really don't like that, you need to be way too precise to use that thing properly. My solution was to just stop editing midi at high zoom levels :thumbdown:


Just click on the bracket symbol to the left of the arrow tool symbol; that turns it off. Or am I misunderstanding what you're referring to?

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by Bub on Mon Jan 10, 2022 10:36 am
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hassanelshafei wrote,specially with that recent acquisition , I am not really sure what to expect

Well, I was a lifelong Cakewalk user when Gibson bought them out. They sold everyone a lifetime upgrade option and then killed the software shortly there after. That is how I ended up with Studio One.
Now that Fender has purchased Presonus, I'm shaking in my boots.


Hey Barry,

I'm sure you remember me from the Sonar forum. I was banned for being so vocal about it's stability?

Since Bandlab bought it they have fixed all of the stability issues that a lot of people ran in to and it's every bit as rock solid as Studio One now. I still prefer Studio One, but if it ever went south like Sonar did I would have no issue at all going back full time. I use it regularly but Studio One is my main go to.

I think the developers overseas take quite a bit of pride in Studio One and I really can't see them letting it go. Unless I read it wrong the Fender thing was only on the hardware side? But I could be wrong. I do wish they would say something on the forum with some details though.

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by kisnou on Mon Jan 10, 2022 10:41 am
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kisnou wrote I would love an option to enable/disable the Smart Tool. I really don't like that, you need to be way too precise to use that thing properly. My solution was to just stop editing midi at high zoom levels :thumbdown:


Just click on the bracket symbol to the left of the arrow tool symbol; that turns it off. Or am I misunderstanding what you're referring to?


That's not what I meant: the Smart Tool is what happens when you edit MIDI notes inside the Editor at high zoom levels. The cursor changes to a variety of tools, from the split to the glue and others, though it requires to be very precise to perform those actions without making mistakes and so wasting time.

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by SwitchBack on Mon Jan 10, 2022 11:33 am
I'd really like to see an option to cusomize what's loaded by S1 at startup. The current list runs nigh forever and I certainly don't need all that gets loaded all the time. Would be great to have an easy/smart option to offload some of the clutter depending on the job at hand, with some presets like 'live recording', 'arranging', 'vst music production' just to name a few. Freeing up screen area, RAM and processors can only be good, right?
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by Lokeyfly on Mon Jan 10, 2022 11:40 am
To the O P. hassanelshafei. There will be a 5.5 as Studio One has had a point five, through versions 1, 2, 3, and 4 so I don't see that changing. ;)

Since we're funnin' if history has tought us anything, there will be new stuff no one asked for, and little we did ask. Is what it is.

Some general possibilities (*), along with my wishful thinking (**).
*Further notation improvement. **Possibly guitar diagram display/tablature. (yay).

*More on sound articulation with more actual and usable drag & drop functionality.

**Further development of the smart tool. Currently, its not all that smart, and actually would be put into a "special class" as it were. Preference being customizable by rmany more adressable regions.

** Improved Inspector Panel layout allowing for greater room of parameters, resulting in a less cramped area. Likely expanded by tabs for clear topic access. Things like Chord reading, Mixer, effects, and note editing fields with greater elbow room. (Yay).


** A dynamic active track view that (optionally of course) plays only tracks that have events in that region (region definable). This is wonderful for keeping a view of active tracks, without having to keep changing scaling. This would also occur on the mixer as well! See Cubase for ref. It's about 3 to 4 years old now in Cubase

** A Skip Forward loop feature (reverse loop). Add to that an additional loop, so when the user creates another loop location, one still remains. This is extremely helpful for dense editing such as drums, or problem areas, while still auditioning a loop at another location. At least some sort of Loop history or memory would also be helpful.

*Sphere - Stuff or offerings (Someone feel free to kick me for bringing it up). Though it's likely to get attention so get used to the Kool-Aid stand. Fortunately, we don't all have to drink it.

** Improve Automation Lanes so they are draggable to another tracks automation lane. Why Copy, cut paste (still acceptable), but wouldn't using the range tool, and dragging or by some modifier key be more in-line with today's workflow? The year 2022 says it should be. This is far more musically beneficial than the likes of a Show Page. (More on that).

Cons:
Show Page as stated by FocalPoint and I highly agree, the Show Page, serves little to no use, and quite frankly IMO convolutes the DAW on a whole. If you're a preforming artist and you can't make Studio One (or any other DAW except perhaps Ableton Live) perform in a live scenario, then you're likely in the wrong business.
Hint: Presonus, you're not Ableton and you don't need to be! Please dont pour bread crumb features into Studio One. Its dissapointing to the real users actually doing something and "performing" large scale work. Yes, show Page is accessible on another Page which is really out of the way. Guess what? Its also out of the way! Since some use it, I'll throw my hands up and say "Happy for you, but don't bloat our DAW.
Emphasis could have been better served elsewhere.

Pros (In the right direction).
Ok, What was done right in v5:
*Mixer snapshots with optional selections.
*Clip Gain
*Notation (though I don't use it)
*Plug-In Nap
*Splitter and Splitter placement (kudos for crossover point!)
*Sound Variations - Articulation (wonderful)
*Real Time Chord Display. Not for everyone, but a thoughtful consideration when at a distance!
*Maintaining seamless ARA2 with Melodyne.

5 5 is a biggie so be excited, peeps.
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by edwine1 on Mon Jan 10, 2022 12:43 pm
5.5 is due out tomorrow (11th Jan 22)

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by Vocalpoint on Mon Jan 10, 2022 12:59 pm
edwine1 wrote5.5 is due out tomorrow (11th Jan 22)


Source? Or speculation?

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by edwine1 on Mon Jan 10, 2022 1:05 pm
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edwine1 wrote5.5 is due out tomorrow (11th Jan 22)


Source? Or speculation?

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V.I. Control. Sphere members got a sneak peek video today (7 new feature for the Project Page). That's all he'd say.

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by Lokeyfly on Mon Jan 10, 2022 1:44 pm
edwine1 wrote5.5 is due out tomorrow (11th Jan 22)

Awesome, they have 16 hours to add all our stuff!

That's consoling that Sphere users get a sneak preview before Studio One core users. If that's the case, hmmmm. ~ Watch ya know about that.

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by kisnou on Mon Jan 10, 2022 3:07 pm
Yeah, they focused a lot on the project page apparently.

Useful updates (I remember a lot of people asking for automations in the project page), however they are not very relevant for my needs.

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by Daw Stew on Mon Jan 10, 2022 3:20 pm
edwine1 wrote
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edwine1 wrote5.5 is due out tomorrow (11th Jan 22)


Source? Or speculation?

VP

V.I. Control. Sphere members got a sneak peek video today (7 new feature for the Project Page). That's all he'd say.


I'm glad for the Mastering guys as the Project page has taken a back seat for a while and plenty of users have requested features for the Project section.
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by Daw Stew on Mon Jan 10, 2022 3:36 pm
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by Lokeyfly on Mon Jan 10, 2022 3:56 pm
I'm finishing an album and a video so a new release with Project page updates will get some love.

Unfortunately, this Sphere sneak preview isn't sitting well in my digestive tract right now.

My tool bag isn't far from the door.

We'll have to wait and see. :?:

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by Steve Carter on Mon Jan 10, 2022 4:11 pm
Yeah - as a loyal user since v1, being demoted to a 2nd class ‘sphere less’ user hurts….

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by Resonant Serpent on Mon Jan 10, 2022 5:14 pm
Steve Carter wroteYeah - as a loyal user since v1, being demoted to a 2nd class ‘sphere less’ user hurts….


Same here.
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by peterbirch on Mon Jan 10, 2022 5:15 pm
Feeling jaded - stuck inside for too long.

I don't want "here is a sneak preview " crap. If it is available let me have it, if not keep quiet until it is available.
Preferably ahead of those 2nd class sphere less users.. :twisted:

Watched the preview and thought doesn't do much for me, but others may think it the greatest thing since sliced bread.
Me, I think these are just things that should have been there from day one - if it was thought out properly in the first place.

This leads me to think have DAW's already plateaued?


What can they offer that is earth shattering? It seems all we get is what other DAW's already have. Does this mean in 2 years ALL DAWs will be identical?

Oh! Was only joking about 2nd class users - because how many of the sphere users will revert back to 2nd class when the cost of 1st class outweighs the lack of innovation, see above.
There must be a time when users take stock and say I have enough to do what I want to do.
For example, I still have an old Wavestation EX Synth - it works as it always did, but I wish it could be updated to do more. Well it cannot - so we live with the limitations.

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by jazzundso on Mon Jan 10, 2022 5:24 pm
Steve Carter wroteYeah - as a loyal user since v1, being demoted to a 2nd class ‘sphere less’ user hurts….

You're not a 2nd class Studio One user. But Sphere users pay to get certain benefits. One benefit of them being sneak previews (not the software, just a video preview) 24 hours earlier (not such a long time). They pay and they get something in return. You paid for the software - and you get the software. As easy as that.

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by Bub on Mon Jan 10, 2022 8:00 pm
Lokeyfly wroteI'm finishing an album and a video so a new release with Project page updates will get some love.


Unless they make it so you can integrate Ozone 9 Advanced seamlessly via ARA somehow in the Project area I don't have any need for it anymore. I gave up on it a long time ago because of various reasons. No sense beating a dead horse so I'll skip the details. But as far as I know the problem's are still there.

+1 to the rest of what you said.

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by daniellesaux on Mon Jan 10, 2022 8:45 pm
Can't wait to see what improvements they've made to the project page! Stoked!

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by Lokeyfly on Mon Jan 10, 2022 10:05 pm
Bub wrote
Lokeyfly wroteI'm finishing an album and a video so a new release with Project page updates will get some love.


Unless they make it so you can integrate Ozone 9 Advanced seamlessly via ARA somehow in the Project area I don't have any need for it anymore. I gave up on it a long time ago because of various reasons. No sense beating a dead horse so I'll skip the details. But as far as I know the problem's are still there.

+1 to the rest of what you said.

Thanks Bub. I have Ozone 8, so I wasn't aware of any hits with 9, but it sounds like there may be some kinks in the armor. I'm looking into Sonible"s Smart Limit this week which is similar to Ozone, and definately way better than the Waves L3. Let's see what the new Project Page has to offer.

I'm also looking into the Evintude Split EQ.

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