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I have been unable to connect Studio one to my 32SX mixer and it will not connect to Capture either. Before launching either of these programs the computer communicates with Universal Control with no problem but stops if I launch either audio program. It seems clear that the WDM audio drivers for the mixer are not working properly. I found an article suggesting the drivers in Windows 10 64 bit be deleted and a fresh driver install be performed. I have deleted the seven StudioLive WDM drivers in my device manager Audio inputs and outputs section and they just come back when I reboot with the mixer on. Also, I cannot find the actual drivers on the presonus site, just the UC and capture programs. How do I delete the mixer audio drivers and where do I find the current ones to download?

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Barry

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by Trucky on Sun Oct 31, 2021 1:15 pm
You can download the latest from your My.PreSonus account or here:
https://www.presonus.com/products/StudioLive-32SX/downloads

I'd recommend uninstalling and reinstalling UC followed by a reboot.

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by barrywitt on Sun Oct 31, 2021 1:51 pm
Trucky,
Thank you for the reply. I uninstalled UC, rebooted and then reinstalled it. Same issue in Studio one. I get the error:

"The audio device StudioLive Series III could not be initialized. Please check your hardware configuration and try again."

Just like before, when I reboot, UC can see the mixer and even control it. Moving the faders on the screen moves them on the mixer. Once I launch either Studio One or Capture even UC won't work without a reboot.

This is getting pretty frustrating. I'm about ready to throw in the towel and go back to my MOTU 2408's, Mackie control surfaces and make some music. I've been dealing with this issue for months now and cannot get the mixer to work in Studio One. I never had this problem with MOTU devices. One would think that Presonus hardware and software would get along. Thanks for your reply. I think it is time to put this completely unused $3k boat anchor on eBay and cut my losses.

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by Trucky on Sun Oct 31, 2021 2:06 pm
So it hasn't worked for months?
Did you submit a Support Ticket (see link below) to PreSonus?

I've had my SIII 32 for almost 3 years and DAW mode works great with Studio One 5 and Windows 10. However there's many things that can prevent it from working. I'm a Series III, Studio One and IT consultant and I've only run into a couple clients that actually had PreSonus related hardware issues that required replacement.

Here's a troubleshooting guide that may help.
https://support.presonus.com/hc/en-us/articles/360055704452-StudioLive-Series-III-DAW-Mode-Setup-Troubleshooting-Guide

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by barrywitt on Sun Oct 31, 2021 2:20 pm
Trucky wroteSo it hasn't worked for months?


It has never worked. It has never connected to Studio One or Capture. It only connects to UC. I only have limited time to work with it as I have work to do and have to switch back to my 2408's and Mackie Controls. I have tried numerous times but have to give up and go back to work.

Trucky wroteI've had my SIII 32 for almost 3 years and DAW mode works great with Studio One 5 and Windows 10.


Way to rub it in. :lol:

Trucky wroteDid you submit a Support Ticket (see link below) to PreSonus?


No, again, time is important to me. I'm pretty computer savvy and have never had an issue like this with any other software/hardware handshake before I couldn't solve myself. It is odd that UC recognizes the mixer at start up and even odder that when the WDM drivers are launched that is shut down.

Trucky wroteHere's a troubleshooting guide that may help.
https://support.presonus.com/hc/en-us/articles/360055704452-StudioLive-Series-III-DAW-Mode-Setup-Troubleshooting-Guide


Thanks, I'll check the guide out. I also found the DAW control addendum and the guide to using the mixer as an audio interface with universal control and WDM Support. Hopefully I'll figure this out.
I appreciate your help.

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by klypeman on Mon Nov 01, 2021 2:50 am
I’ve had this issue a couple of times and as a stopgap I pull out the USB from the SLIII and put it back and reconnect in SO5 and it works again, for me it is.

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by barrywitt on Sat Jan 01, 2022 4:43 pm
Ok, I finally got back to this and here is what worked for me. I had the USB from the mixer plugged into my USB 3.0 hub and my mixer's control ethernet plugged directly into my computer. I switched my USB to a motherboard USB port and plugged both my computer and my 32SX into a port on the back of my router and I now have control of everything and no errors on Studio One program launch. Now I just have to figure out how to get the monitor output set to my powered studio monitor speakers. I'm gaining on it. Thanks for the help so far in here and thanks to Joe Gilder for his videos.

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by barrywitt on Mon Jan 03, 2022 6:07 pm
I wanted to update this thread with my recent developments. I kept having off and on loss of connection via USB from my PC to my StudioLive 32SX mixer. It was driving me nuts. Knowing what I know about IRQs in PCs I thought that I might have been having interrupt conflicts. I pulled my MOTU PCI-424 card and my add on USB 3.0 daughter card and it seems the problem is gone. I will see how it goes over the next few days and report back. Hopefully I have corrected my issue.

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by barrywitt on Mon Jan 03, 2022 9:14 pm
Well my success was short lived. Back to loss of connection between the PC and the 32SX. Very frustrating. I never had issues like this with MOTU interfaces.

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by klypeman on Tue Jan 04, 2022 7:53 am
Well, one thing I have done with my USB ports is to be sure that there is no power-saving.
Another thing is that I learned to turn on the SLIII before the PC and the need to connect and disconnect of the USB cable is gone.

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by SwitchBack on Tue Jan 04, 2022 8:37 am
Also note that these mixers need a lot of bandwidth (64 channels of RAW audio both ways, plus control data) so they don’t like to share a hub with other devices. E.g. on laptops the keyboard, trackpad and camera are often piggybacked on hubs that serve external USB ports too. This can slow the USB ports down (keyboards and trackpads) or eat away bandwidth (cameras). So try your mixer on every USB port to find the best match (or dig around in the hardware config to find out what goes where).
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by barrywitt on Wed Jan 05, 2022 11:10 am
Klypeman,
Thanks for the response. I'll see if my USB ports are set to power saving and turn that off if so.

Switchback,
Thanks for the response. I've tried all available ports and I am turning on the mixer first when rebooting both the PC and the mixer. The odd thing, is once in a blue moon just unplugging the USB out of the mixer works but most times it doesn't. I can leave Studio One not running, walk away and come back to the lost connection error so I don't think it is a bandwidth issue. I'm thinking it might be what Klypman is suggesting. We'll see.

Barry

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by wahlerstudios on Wed Jan 05, 2022 2:06 pm
There are not many diagrams showing the use of USB with StudioLive mixers, possibly this one from the owners manual is the only one. But the message is clear: There is no other decice (hub, active ports) allowed except a Faderport for DAW control.

I haven't seen any problem with USB 3.0 yet, but it should always be kept in mind that the mixer uses USB 2.0. And of course, the mixer is the clock, not the PC, which means that the mixer needs to be started first.

StudioLive mixers, PC, UC Control/UC Surface, DAW Mode, Studio One, Capture - I haven't seen any problem with this "ecosystem" and its counterpart AVB II. USB delivers both, audio and control. Maybe it can make sense to reduce things to what the diagram shows... ;-)

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by barrywitt on Thu Jan 06, 2022 12:20 pm
"But the message is clear: There is no other device (hub, active ports) allowed except a Faderport for DAW control"

Well that would be pretty tough on any modern computer to accomplish. Mouse, keyboard, external hard drives all use USB today. I certainly hope that is not really the case and I just need to turn off the power save function to get this stable.

Thank you for the post.

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by wahlerstudios on Thu Jan 06, 2022 2:33 pm
Of course, the control side of USB is not in question. The mixer + Faderport concept shows that already. Meant is that audio is restricted to one USB connection. There can not be a second USB source for audio. The use of external USB hubs is also not recommended. The diagram shows how the connection should be. There is not more and nothing else than one single USB cable...

Power save function? It has always been recommended to turn off any kind of save or sleep function of a computer or tablet when working with audio or remote control. This can cause a lot of problems.

I am no computer specialist, but in general there is no "driver problem" with PreSonus hardware and software, so you will not find any driver files for download. UC Control cares for the communication of computer, DAW and mixer/hardware (the PreSonus ecosystem) and installs everything which is needed to make this work. There is no need to touch WDM settings, unless you want to integrate more audio sources on the computer side. Also "Interface Mode" is a very special feature. You will not need it for normal use.

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by barrywitt on Sat Jan 08, 2022 10:59 am
I don't have any other USB audio source or output device. I have disabled the USB power saving in Windows 10 and I still randomly lose connection. What I have been doing is loading up one of the sample songs which comes with Studio One and testing the transport functions. All works as expected and VU meters show signals. I play, stop and rewind, then leave the system alone for a period of time and come back and try it again. Randomly I will get the failed to initialize error pop up.

After reading your post, I disabled the motherboard audio device and rebooted the machine after restarting the mixer. In my audio sound settings I show only the studio live mixer and nothing else. The mixer is connected and responding. I will see if it disconnects again. Thanks again for helping me sort this out.

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by barrywitt on Sat Jan 08, 2022 11:19 am
Well that didn't take long. Ten minutes later and the "device failed to initialize" error popped up again. I have never had this kind of an issue with any other USB audio or MIDI interface and I've had a few of them running on this same computer.

My last setup was a firewire based MOTU PCI 424 card with two MOTU 2408 audio units, a USB based MIDI Timepiece AV and a 24 channel Mackie control surface 3 unit setup that work beautifully. This mixer is unreliable and a royal pain in the butt with this computer which has always worked well. So, I guess when you spend $3k on a Presonus mixer you have to spend $3k on a new computer to get it to work. Very frustrating. At this point I'm ready to sell this mixer on eBay and go back to my old set up.

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by Trucky on Sat Jan 08, 2022 1:07 pm
Trucky wroteDid you submit a Support Ticket (see link below) to PreSonus?

barrywitt wroteNo, again, time is important to me. I'm pretty computer savvy and have never had an issue like this with any other software/hardware handshake before I couldn't solve myself. It is odd that UC recognizes the mixer at start up and even odder that when the WDM drivers are launched that is shut down.

What versions of Universal Control and SIII firmware are you running? I've seen a few users report audio related issues with the latest release so as a test you could try rolling back to the previous version which you'll find in your My.PreSonus account.

I know you replied earlier that time was important to you but I'd still recommend submitting a Support Ticket or at least test the mixer with another computer to confirm it's the problem. You probably don't want to deal with selling it to someone on eBay if the mixer is defective.

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by barrywitt on Sat Jan 08, 2022 9:42 pm
Trucky,
Thanks for the response. I caved and ordered a new MB,CPU and memory. I'm going to try a new machine and see if that works. If not I'll reach out to support.

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by barrywitt on Sun Jan 16, 2022 1:50 pm
Ok, the new computer is built and booted and it's an ASUS B550-F Gaming Motherboard with 64GB/3600DDR4 memory and a Ryzen 5 5600X
Studio One is updated to 5.5 and everything is now stable. (knock on wood) No more lost connections between the mixer and the computer. The total cost of new components was around $700. Now to get everything wired up and push the studio desk back to the wall so I can finish the sound treatment installation. I have so much to learn about this mixer. Thank you everyone for your responses.

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