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Been using S1 for my voiceover work for over 5 years now and have always used the very handy ALT-DRAG keyboard option when I render out a .WAV file to send to clients.

I just updated to 5.40 yesterday and did a session this morning and noticed using my standard VO Template with an instance of iZotope Nectar 3 on my single input track - after I lay down a VO - create an event, name it and ALT-DRAG it to a folder on the Files area (F5) to create my deliverable WAV - my Nectar FX are suddenly NOT printed to the resulting file.

Now - when I ALT-DRAG - I get a small menu that offer several file types that can be created - there are three choices - a straight WAV file (NO FX), WAV file WITH Rendered FX and an AudioLoop option. I always have this set to WAV file with Rendered Insert FX - and it's never let me down.

Today - during my first session with 5.40 - and ALT-DRAG give me what sounds like the RAW VO with no FX - in the resulting file I can hear the mic hiss and compression from my LA-610 - the same sound I hear in my phones when the mic is not muted and I am simply recording. What I should get is a nice clean gated/FXed copy of the VO ready to send out.

I also tested the different options from the mini menu that pops out - regardless of whether I choose WAV file or WAV File With Rendered Insert FX - I get what sounds like the same file. Something is going on here.

Within S1 during actual playback - the Insert FX on the track are working perfectly - the Nectar 3 template has EQ, light limiting and a very obvious gate which cuts out all the mic hiss and room tone when I play back the selection. Playback in S1 sounds perfect - but the ALT-DRAG render has nothing in the way of Insert FX

What am I missing?

Cheers

VP
Last edited by Vocalpoint on Mon Sep 20, 2021 8:20 am, edited 2 times in total.

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by Vocalpoint on Sat Sep 18, 2021 11:39 am
Have totally confirmed this now. I stuck a crazy flanger onto my VO track and ALT-DRAGged that over the to File Browser.

Should have gotten a totally flanged VO wav file but got nothing but a RAW VO wav file. This is broken now for certain.

Will try a ticket to Presonus.

Cheers

VP

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by patrickviens on Sat Sep 18, 2021 11:43 pm
Yes, Drag to the browser + ALT to export with rendered fxs does not render the fxs. I am also on Windows 10.
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by Vocalpoint on Sun Sep 19, 2021 6:42 am
patrickviens wroteYes, Drag to the browser + ALT to export with rendered fxs does not render the fxs. I am also on Windows 10.


Thanks for confirming! I have some other colleagues who have tested and found the same.

Here's hoping we get a 5.40.1 soon - this is a very disappointing development for my workflow and it's not like Presonus to suddenly break something that has been a key function for probably 4 versions of the software?

Also cannot believe this made it past testing.

Cheers!

VP

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by PreAl on Sun Sep 19, 2021 12:09 pm
Vocalpoint wrote
patrickviens wroteYes, Drag to the browser + ALT to export with rendered fxs does not render the fxs. I am also on Windows 10.


Thanks for confirming! I have some other colleagues who have tested and found the same.

Here's hoping we get a 5.40.1 soon - this is a very disappointing development for my workflow and it's not like Presonus to suddenly break something that has been a key function for probably 4 versions of the software?

Also cannot believe this made it past testing.

Cheers!

VP


There are workarounds I assume, or you can roll back,
if bugs worry you then avoid updating on major incremental versions..I haven't upgraded yet.

I absolutely don't know when the next patch will be released but I would expect 1-2 months looking at the past.

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by Vocalpoint on Sun Sep 19, 2021 8:56 pm
PreAl wrote There are workarounds I assume, or you can roll back, if bugs worry you then avoid updating on major incremental versions..I haven't upgraded yet.


Funny that I am usually in that mindset - "stay put - it's working fine" - but after reading about all the positives that many others were having - it seemed reasonable to jump in.

However - I did not expect Presonus to commit a foul on a function that has been rock solid for easily 5 years - suddenly now they decide to kill it with a "bug"? I guess anything is possible but this is a clear (and unexplainable) issue with their test plan- unless of course I am the only guy in the Presonus world that ALT-DRAGs files to the browser to render WAV files with FX?

And yes - there are workarounds - none of which are as fast and easy as using the File Browser - but I suppose I will have to dig in and make the best of it.

So - roll back? Never tried it - can I just install overtop of 5.40 and 5.3x will pick up my settings and carry on? Or should I install 5.3.x to a new folder?

Would like to get back as close I can to my 5.3.x settings from about 5 days ago - if that's possible.

Cheers

VP

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by PreAl on Mon Sep 20, 2021 1:09 am
All software releases have unexpected bugs - period.
Google should help you here, you can install versions side by side. Always back up your machine before installing new software.

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by patrickviens on Mon Sep 20, 2021 7:12 am
This one will be fixed quickly, given that Drag & Drop is one of Presonus main selling point. Export Stems/Tracks does it just as fast (except for the needt to browse for a customer export folder) so I wouldn't roll back for that.
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by Bbd on Mon Sep 20, 2021 7:18 am
So did the anyone with this issue create a support ticket? If so, please update this topic with their answer.
Thanks.

Bbd

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by Vocalpoint on Mon Sep 20, 2021 8:16 am
Bbd wroteSo did the anyone with this issue create a support ticket? If so, please update this topic with their answer.
Thanks.


BDB

Ticket created. Will update here as soon as I get something back from Support.

Cheers

VP

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by Vocalpoint on Mon Sep 20, 2021 3:29 pm
This just in from Support:

We can confirm what you've reported. Our beta testers reported it QA yesterday Please keep an eye on future update release notes for any changes.

Best Regards,
Lawrence
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