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Was going through the top 10 most voted feature requests for Studio one that have been posted in 2015/16 already and are relatively simple things that other DAWs have been implemented for years and decades - and we are still waiting for it to happen. Are the people at Presonus not looking at them anymore and don't care about those requests?
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by Lokeyfly on Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:18 am
Welcome vqljxtva! I see you joined July 30, 2021.


Please inform we the people what items you're talking about.

Every DAW has their strengths, attributes, and potential weaknesses (for some). It's largely a good thing that they are each a little different from one another.

Maybe keep it to a few key points. No one is going to look for anything if you don't address them.

FYI, Presonus has acted on many users requests as they apply, and also broken new ground on a lot of new innovative features.
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by miked7 on Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:41 am
I'd just like to say a big THANK YOU to the Presonus powers that be for adding a feature request I've been asking for for years now: the Splitter as a plugin! Woo hoo! :)

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by graytermedia on Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:11 am
I think people have to surrender to the notion that there is no perfect DAW, If you do, it will allow you to get to work and quit chasing your tail. My solution, albeit expensive, was to collect/use more than one:

If I want to straight up write and mix music, I use Studio One.
If I want to mix a broadcast show, documentary or short film, I use Pro Tools.
Deep sound design - Reaper.
Combatting writer's block, jamming, live show prep - Ableton Live.

All of these DAW's excel at something the other doesn't, and wanting S1 to be Reaper, or have the Session View of Ableton is a path to frustration. All of them have a different workflow and play a specific role depending on what I want to accomplish. Most importantly, all of them render audio, so a project can move freely between them.

I just completed a project for PBS Kids and the path was - theme song music was composed and recorded with scratch vocals by me in S1 > vocals for theme were tracked by the talent in Pro Tools at the office using stems from S1 > Sound design for the animation segments were spotted to video in Reaper > Full show mix (dialogue, music, SFX and character VO/ADR for animation) was done in Pro Tools.

At one point the show's science advisors didn't like one of my SFX, so I had to go back to Reaper, make the change, render a new sub mix and spot it back in PT. It can be clunky, but I get it done. Of course I'd love to do all of this in S1, but..... that ain't gonna happen and I've bitched plenty here (and in Feature Requests) about S1's lack of Post audio features. Presonus doesn't seem to want to play in those waters, and I doubt they'd do it better than Avid anyway.

It doesn't matter the path it takes, as long as you get there.

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by vqljxtva on Sat Jul 31, 2021 7:24 am
I was mainly thinking of the top ten listed here in the most voted requests:
https://answers.presonus.com/questions/ ... sort=votes

As a film composer coming from LogicPro, it would be great to have a dedicated video track, something every other DAW has had for years and decades, to better see where the video is and also be able to move it to different positions when needed. Doing it via "video offsets" is not so handy.
It's also very strange coming from a different DAW to not be able to drag the playhead. Maybe it's something that will take time to get used to but it feels kind of strange. Especially when working with a video it's good to have a drag-able playhead so you can see the video frames while going forward or back.

Another thing are crossfades that don't sound seamless but with a little dip in volume in the middle. Needs to be manually adjusted always. Not really happening in other DAWs.
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by PreAl on Sat Jul 31, 2021 9:44 am
Feature requests appear to be acted upon not only by the number of votes, but also the amount we moan in the forums.


R = Likelyhood of feature requests.
V = Number of votes on a request.
M = Forum Moan Factor
T = Total number of requests.


R = ((V x M) / T) * 100

It's science...!
OK I just made it up...

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by robertgray3 on Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:40 pm
vqljxtva wroteI was mainly thinking of the top ten listed here in the most voted requests:
https://answers.presonus.com/questions/ ... sort=votes


That list has changed a lot year to year. If you looked at the top ten last year, a lot of the ones from 2014 were added. If you looked at the top ten two years ago, a lot of the ones from 2011 were added. They add unique ideas, they add improvements to old ideas, and they add popular ideas. The pace may be increasing a bit but they only add so many per update and have a lot of products to juggle (Studio One, Notion, Universal Control, Studio One Remote, Studio One Hub, perhaps some others I'm forgetting). Still, it's hard to say they're not acting on anything.

As for what they choose to add, well, I have my own priorities I wish they'd follow as do you. I have a feeling a lot of our wish lists have more to do with the existing deficit of functionality compared to many of the legacy DAWs than uncharted territory. The likely desire to break new ground means that's probably only one of the lenses through which the team sees the product. Me, I don't know if I really need any new ground broken. I just miss a couple things from other programs and especially miss aspects of current features that other programs do better (Transform doesn't work with sidechains, no tagging of samples or presets unless you painstakingly make a Sound Set, No option to use Tape mode for Transpose instead of Timestretching). Not enough to do my work in other DAWs, mind, just enough that I wonder "gosh, that button would have saved me 5, 10, minutes in Pro Tools/Live/Logic."

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by IanM5 on Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:56 pm
I'm very, very surprised that the item with the highest vote is a request for more colours than the 88 that are available. If that is the most pressing issue then S1 is doing pretty well. :+1

I think Presonus do take the feature requests very seriously and those request do inform some of the decisions about future features. Presonus are never going to please everyone but I think they make a pretty good fist of it.

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by SwitchBack on Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:05 pm
Also, S1 like every piece of software is designed with a workflow in mind. Ideas that support, improve and build on that workflow stand a better chance of getting implemented than ideas that 'swim upstream'.
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by kisnou on Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:23 pm
I am the proud owner of one of the most recent hot topics in there, which is this:
https://answers.presonus.com/69499/simp ... studio-one

I posted this on June 29. They are really minor features but they would help SO much.
We'll see it they actually implement those in version 5.5.

I hope so, but yes I am one of those who voted for features posted years ago that still haven't become a reality, so I won't be surprised... even if, in my opinion, feature requests should be the n.2 priority (n.1 is bug fixes).

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by PreAl on Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:04 pm
kisnou wroteI am the proud owner of one of the most recent hot topics in there, which is this:
https://answers.presonus.com/69499/simp ... studio-one

I posted this on June 29. They are really minor features but they would help SO much.
We'll see it they actually implement those in version 5.5.

I hope so, but yes I am one of those who voted for features posted years ago that still haven't become a reality, so I won't be surprised... even if, in my opinion, feature requests should be the n.2 priority (n.1 is bug fixes).


If you check the comment on your feature request. You've put 3 feature requests on one post. So you've kinda scored an own goal (surprised it wasn't deleted). If a dev implements just one of your features the rest will be deleted or your post will have to be edited, not handy.

I'd scrap it and create 3, and make sure that these features haven't been logged before or you will split the vote.

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by sdinoia on Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:05 pm
vqljxtva wroteIt's also very strange coming from a different DAW to not be able to drag the playhead. Maybe it's something that will take time to get used to but it feels kind of strange. Especially when working with a video it's good to have a drag-able playhead so you can see the video frames while going forward or back.
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To move the playhead assign a shortcut (i use the ` key) to "Locate Mouse Cursor" under Trasnsport in the Keyboard Shortcuts window. Then, when in the arrangement view, the playhead will follow your mouse anywhere you want as long as you keep that shortcut pressed, or just move to wherever you cursor is if you press it only once.

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by GMHague on Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:55 pm
As a freelance journalist who supposedly specialises in all things prosumer in recording, I can say the holy grail of DAW has always been the software that can do anything ... something that's not achieved yet, obviously. It's interesting to remember that Presonus' original pitch was the DAW "without bloat".
I wonder if some features simply clash with the coding of others making them difficult to implement? In that case, is it worthwhile having different versions of S1 such "Video", "Recording" or "Post-production" where the trade-off is in features that need to be dropped to allow others to work?
Cubase kind of did it with Nuendo.
BTW, can someone please define "post-production" for me? I've never quite known the difference between simply mixing down ... unless you mean syncing to video and adding SFX, etc.

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by Jemusic on Sat Jul 31, 2021 7:07 pm
Post production is a term that varies its meaning according to what it is applied to. For film work it is definitely what happens after shooting. Visual effects and for audio it means music. dialogue and effects production added in the soundtrack.

For music production it still means what we do after the initial tracking. Here is an article on it:

https://joeysturgistones.com/blogs/lear ... production

Comping, vocal tuning, fixing things timing wise, removing unwanted sounds etc.. Usually all done before the mixing and mastering processes.

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by garyanderson5 on Sun Aug 01, 2021 6:30 am
vqljxtva wroteWas going through the top 10 most voted feature requests for Studio one that have been posted in 2015/16 already and are relatively simple things that other DAWs have been implemented for years and decades - and we are still waiting for it to happen. Are the people at Presonus not looking at them anymore and don't care about those requests?


They used to make a big deal out of what would make you move over to Studio One and that this is the DAW built off user input. Then they made a big deal out of getting Pro Tools users to switch over. It felt like they cared about you upto V4.5 but now it feels like your along for the ride IMO. It's a sad state of affair's if the colour pallate is the most requested thing in Studio One right now If people are botherd by it's looks more than how it actually works and performs.

Probably the biggest request or complaint over the last 5 years was CPU improvements. It's not even near the top of the request list now because people gave up asking or moved on to other DAW's. The days of 3-4 main DAW market leaders are over and there is some pretty stiff competition out there. It's easy to jump ship.

The workflow is still it's best feature but for me but Studio One is trying to please to many people and ofc they can't add every feature that's requested so some people are always going to lose out. I think they need to decide what's important to growth and stop adding stuff that divides it's user base up to much.

I use Studio One still today and have done for years even if my opinion seems a bit negative towards Presonus. Cubase was no different for the 15+ years i used it. They were up and down all the time with features, problems and wow this just got so much better to work on times. It's part of the growth and development of a DAW but for the most part Presonus have done a fantastic job with Studio One.

You can't please everyone all the time :)

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by Funkybot on Sun Aug 01, 2021 2:58 pm
vqljxtva wroteI was mainly thinking of the top ten listed here in the most voted requests:
https://answers.presonus.com/questions/ ... sort=votes


What you're not seeing there are all the things that were previously in the top-ten that they have implemented. Those items either get closed out or kind of fall down the list once implemented.

Seeing the state of the top-ten items right now, I'd think they'll knock maybe a few off in 5.5 and maybe a few more in 6.0. And then there will be a new top ten.

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by patricemazmanian on Mon Aug 02, 2021 4:09 am
:thumbup: Presonus really listens to these users

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by arndkaiser on Mon Aug 02, 2021 5:03 am
Here's the list of recently completed feature requests, just as a reference:
https://answers.presonus.com/questions/ ... sort=votes

You can also sort by date instead of number of votes.

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by Vocalpoint on Tue Aug 03, 2021 7:01 am
arndkaiser wroteHere's the list of recently completed feature requests, just as a reference:
https://answers.presonus.com/questions/ ... sort=votes

You can also sort by date instead of number of votes.


All I want to know is why iZoTope RX7/8 Connect functionality continues to be a hard "No" in Studio One where it works in pretty much every other competing DAW perfectly.

Judging by the fact the Presonus/Izotope have struck some kinda deal (I always see iZotope bundles included in the most recent "value" packs when you buy new Presonus hardware) - it blows my mind that Presonus and iZotope have not teamed up to get this working.

Given the amount of time that Connect has existed - it is starting to feel like this functionality is either too obscure to even consider as a feature or is simply not ever going to be on the radar.

The same functionality could also be associated with an ability to assign a third party audio editor as well - which is standard in many other DAWS - but no where to be found in S1.

And yes - I put this feature request in years ago.

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by roland1 on Wed Aug 04, 2021 6:35 pm
Marketing. They have to weigh feature request priorities against their goals to target a certain demographic of user. If a certain feature does not serve that demographic — at least for this cycle — then it gets shelved.

Digital Performer, for instance, is a highly advanced DAW that has things in it that most DAWs can only dream of. Yet because they serve mostly film composers, or wanna-be film composers, such things as virtual instruments have always been on the shabby side — and an afterthought. Their drum sampler is the epitome of cheese.

You gotta figure that every DAW that's trying to move units - or subscriptions - has got its eye on the ball that's coming across the plate, not the one that's going to be pitched in the 8th inning.

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