I'm trying to record a vst instrument (piano) with a kind of random granular effect that I'm really 'playing off' with the take, so want to record the midi I'm playing and the effected audio output from the track to another audio track at the same time. I can't work out how to do it. If I route the output from the instrument track to an audio track it will only enable record on one of them, not both. Is there another way to do it via the console? Or Pipeline?
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How does it sound if you just record the midi then bounce the track?
You could record the midi then play it back solo with a loopback input if your interface has that. If it really had to be done like you want I would set up a small loopback input, and send the audio from the midi track to it. Then it would come in and get recorded. You have to have an extra pair of outputs and inputs to do that. Working with loopback inputs you want to be careful and not monitor any incoming signal from a loopback. Good to put your specs in your signature, click below in my signature.
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What keyboard are you using, does it have a usb and midi output?
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Bus the output of the instrument (Send). Then create a new audio track. The input of that audio track will receive the newly bussed track. That is its audio path. When you now create (record) the instrument track, youll have both tracks recording. Remember to arm both the new audio track, and the instrument that will be sounding MIDI.
I have a pitch to midi guitar instrument plugin that works this way. So playing an instrument while recording is just a matter of adding a bus, and arming both audio and MIDI tracks with the right assigned inputs. It also can be accomplished via Rewire, but since Rewire isn't the original part of the question, I'll leave that one as another possibility. Sorry for my misspell. I'm coming to the realization I need reading glasses.
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That works!
I don't remember being able to route from a bus to a track but there's a lot of input options now.
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Hi,
Is it no longer possible to just: 1. Add the VST on a instrument track 2. Add a audio track and select Instrument/ VST as input for that track in the input selector 3. Arm both tracks when recording. ?
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LBH wroteIs it no longer possible to just: I don't think that was ever possible in Studio One. The method Lokeyfly suggested is add a send to your instrument track to a new bus. Next create an audio track and set the input to that bus.
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What version of Studio One are you running? Some specs would be helpful.
Certainly in V5.2.1 you just create the Instrument track and insert the VST instrument. Then add a stereo audio track, a folder appears titled Instruments in the Inputs window This will have the output of the virtual instrument as an input source to the audio track. Select it. You may want to fade down the audio channel's fader to prevent the monitoring output level going up. Put both tracks into record. Midi and audio will be both recorded at the same time. If the virtual instrument performs differently each time with the same midi data going in, then obviously different results can be captured on multiple audio tracks or multiple takes/layers on a single audio track. Every virtual instrument you insert will become available as input source to any audio track. An older version of Studio One might require the virtual instrument being sent to a bus and then bus will be available as an input source.
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Exactly as Jemusic mentions. If we're talking S1 v5.2 (I skipped over 5.0), then there are more selections at the audio track input to select an Instrument outright. Tacman7 also noted increased input selections now. Very true.
You might still opt for the bus option if you would like more than one instrument bussed, (such as adding that granular effect the OP mentions) or the input isn't showing up on the audio track. The good thing is its now even easier to access more choices! Yeah very cool. I noticed the instant instrument inputs, recently sampling within Sample One, both at track level, and even sampling right from Sample One's own input on its front panel! This makes accessing and routing instruments so much more effortless now. This was yet even another example of recording MIDI and audio at the same time, so more and more possibilities are coming up roses.
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Ya lot more changes than I thought!
Didn't notice that you can get input from the instruments now. School of hard knocks!
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LBH wroteHi, So this is still possible in Studio One 5 like it is possible in my Studio One 2 and 3. Good.
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Tacman7 wroteYa lot more changes than I thought! I'll send you a nifty short video on that being done in Sample One. That way I don't alterl any discussion here.
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LBH wroteLBH wroteHi, Hello, With Instrument selected as input, the record button on that audio track is greyed out, thus unable to record. Any insight much appreciated - Thanks. (On Studio One 5.2.1.64495 macOS x64) |
Hi tomdewolf,
It works on my system. Also with Mai Tai. Have you somehow disabled the audio track? Try the right click over the track and look for a Enable Track in the pop up menu. (On Windows it's right click.)
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On the Audio Track the record and monitor buttons are blacked out or not working. This is because no input has been selected. So on the arrange page grab the lower boundary of the audio track header and drag it down a little more to expose the Inputs section. Here you need to select the input source. (Assuming you have all your Audio IN/OUT settings setup correctly of course)
In your case the output of MaiTai should be in the list of available input sources so select that here.
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I've just created a thread about exactly this in the FAQ section so apologies, I did'nt see this one.
But I'm with tomdewolf- it's not possible for me to arm both the instrument and the audio simultaneously too. And also the bus solution doesn't actually record the audio even though that version does allow arming of both tracks. |
tomdewolf and aduki -
Are you using "Low latency monitoring for instruments"? (EDIT I see a z in tomdewolfs image. EDIT END) It look like this is another issue that the Dropout Protection introduce. I get the issue, when i turn this feature on. I would turn it fully off, if it was possible. My setting is Uncheck " Enable low latency monitoring for instruments" and after that set Dropout Protection to "Minimum". This is the closest to off. The Dropout Protection cause timing issues. I can't tell if a green z functionality can help, if you have this possibility. I have'nt.
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LBH wrotetomdewolf and aduki - Thanks, LBH: unchecking "Enable low latency monitoring for instruments' solved the problem for me. Also the buss solution that didn't work for aduki and me, works fine now here. It would be nice if I could understand the underlying issue. Anyhow: much appreciated! |
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