Waaaaaah!

I guess I'm the only one then, who would find such a thing useful?

I'll just stand in the corner then

You're not the only one who would find it useful but developing decent audio software for Android does not often make good business sense for developers.
Android itself is not very friendly to real-time audio. There have been some improvements but they are typically only on the very high-end phones/tablets from just a few companies. That means a very small market for any app that relies on that stuff.

Add to that the fact that there are loads of versions of Android and loads of different hardware platforms so making an app that works across all of them is not easy.

Finally, consider that it's hard to charge more than a few 10's of $$$ for any tablet or phone app.

Developing audio stuff for Apple tables/phones makes a bit more sense because the OS is generally better at handling audio and there are fewer target devices but even there you can't charge enough money to cover the development costs.

So the best you can probably hope for is some sort of cut down audio/midi sketch pad that offers integration with the desktop S1. PS already do an audio-only thing for iPad/iPhone that records a few tracks of audio and then dumps them into desktop S1 over WiFi. It's slick and impressive but very limited.

And come out of the corner. You're making the place look untidy!

IanM5 wroteSo the best you can probably hope for is some sort of cut down audio/midi sketch pad that offers integration with the desktop S1. PS already do an audio-only thing for iPad/iPhone that records a few tracks of audio and then dumps them into desktop S1 over WiFi. It's slick and impressive but very limited.

I thought that was more or less what I suggested - only to simplify things, just make it for instruments ie. not audio, because of the reasons you give - ie. I understand Android basically not a real high-performance OS.

And yes perhaps in that case limited - but as I said, just a basic scribble pad. Major thing is the integration with S1 (or just an export function to .song).

I wasn't expecting production quality - but hey, you never know

IanM5 wroteAnd come out of the corner. You're making the place look untidy!

Sorry

leosutherland wrote

IanM5 wroteSo the best you can probably hope for is some sort of cut down audio/midi sketch pad that offers integration with the desktop S1. PS already do an audio-only thing for iPad/iPhone that records a few tracks of audio and then dumps them into desktop S1 over WiFi. It's slick and impressive but very limited.

I thought that was more or less what I suggested - only to simplify things, just make it for instruments ie. not audio, because of the reasons you give - ie. I understand Android basically not a real high-performance OS.

And yes perhaps in that case limited - but as I said, just a basic scribble pad. Major thing is the integration with S1 (or just an export function to .song).

I wasn't expecting production quality - but hey, you never know

IanM5 wroteAnd come out of the corner. You're making the place look untidy!

Sorry

It's sort-of what you suggested except you want instruments too. Those instruments are effectively "midi to audio converters" so although you are not asking for audio recording you are sill asking for a real-time audio app and on Android it will suffer from latencies that are usually high and sometimes variable. That variable part is the hardest thing for developers to deal with. It's not a coincidence that the Apple ecosystem has an order of magnitude more music apps than the Android ecosystem.

Maybe in a few years the general pool of Android devices will be better at that stuff but there still may not be a good business case for it.

But I'd happily try such an app if it existed!

Studio One RC is an existing Android app that provides remote control of Studio One over your wireless LAN.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/deta ... .dawremote

For a full recording solution on Android, I settled on the Audio Evolution Mobile (AEM) DAW. They also offer an audio driver for external audio interfaces (via an OTG cable, making the phone the USB master). The price for the two apps is well below US$20. When the drivers for my Tascam US-16x08 failed, I switched it with the AudioBox 44 VSL I was using with my phone, so now I'm back to running the 44 VSL on my PC, and the Tascam on my phone, where it works beautifully!

https://play.google.com/store/apps/deta ... e&hl=en_US

Here are the dozens of audio interfaces supported by AEM:

http://www.extreamsd.com/index.php/tech ... dio-driver

AEM is great for remote recording, and then dropping the audio into Studio One.

Besides the standard ‘cost verse market’ issues, the issue with Android has always been really, really crappy latency in the audio pipeline, which really makes it a non-starter except for specific types of recording apps designed around those limitations. (Not relying on real-time midi or audio recording, by focusing on entering all the midi notes with taps on a grid while the app is stopped etc.) I have an app with minor sound needs on Android, and followed the dev forums for years hoping breakthroughs would come with no substantial changes.

Who knows, things might have improved recently, but as mentioned previously, probably only for the newest, most expensive devices, again limiting the market.

(And I also heartily support checking out the Studio One utility app for controlling the DAW from your device: if it behaves anything like the iOS version, it’s a very handy tool!)

Just FYI, I've purchased and installed AEM Studio 2 on my Samsung tablet - it all looks fine so far, but I need to really play around with it some more.

Pity I've got fat fingers!

Maybe I could use a stylus....

tovokas wroteBesides the standard ‘cost verse market’ issues, the issue with Android has always been really, really crappy latency in the audio pipeline, which really makes it a non-starter except for specific types of recording apps designed around those limitations. (Not relying on real-time midi or audio recording, by focusing on entering all the midi notes with taps on a grid while the app is stopped etc.) I have an app with minor sound needs on Android, and followed the dev forums for years hoping breakthroughs would come with no substantial changes.

Who knows, things might have improved recently, but as mentioned previously, probably only for the newest, most expensive devices, again limiting the market.

(And I also heartily support checking out the Studio One utility app for controlling the DAW from your device: if it behaves anything like the iOS version, it’s a very handy tool!)

Not anymore an issue with the latest OS and phones, Pixel 3/4 will probably be fine. How the app is coded is also another factor.

https://www.audiokinetic.com/library/ed ... tpath.html

Some years ago I used the Cubasis on travels with a little MIDI keyboard on an Ipad (dead now).
I for one would love if I could do scribbles on my Lenovo Tab in a SOLite config., as it is now I have to take a laptop and soundcard+a 25 keyboard with me and that's simply not working on the plane.

I would like to use Studio One RC in my drum room to help me control, edit and map Steven Slate Drums SSD5 & Trigger 2 while away from my audio desk. Is there a way to open the actual GUI of the plugin remotely instead of just a parameters window? If so, how? If it can not be done using Studio One RC, is there another Android app that can do this?

Sadly, methinks I'll have to abandon AEM on may Tab Pro. When playing a loop, the sound was happening about 1/2 to 1 second after the cursor hits a note. I setup the Low Latency setting, and now it's more like 1-2 seconds

I can't deal with that

How much are iPads these days?

PreAl wroteNot anymore an issue with the latest OS and phones, Pixel 3/4 will probably be fine. How the app is coded is also another factor.

Cool!

leosutherland wroteSadly, methinks I'll have to abandon AEM on may Tab Pro. When playing a loop, the sound was happening about 1/2 to 1 second after the cursor hits a note. I setup the Low Latency setting, and now it's more like 1-2 seconds

Hmmm.