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Jemusic wroteThat Negative Delay plugin is Windows only but a good work around in the meantime. It has been reported so we do know about this issue and it will be addressed.


Hi jemusic,

Thanks for the feedback. I'm using the free minusdelay VST plug-in to remedy this issue, and it does work.

It would be great to see this issue fixed by Presonus, I just upgraded to Studio One Pro 5, and love this DAW, but please, please, Presonus fix this issue, the sooner the better.

Studio One Pro 6.0.2 , FaderPort 8, ATOM. (Windows 10).

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by anthonydefusco on Sun Jul 19, 2020 1:43 pm
muziksculp wroteplease, please, Presonus fix this issue, the sooner the better.


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by fransaartsen on Tue Aug 11, 2020 10:37 am
Looks like it was fixed in 5.0.1!

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by Bbd on Tue Aug 11, 2020 11:38 am
Yes!

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by PreAl on Tue Aug 11, 2020 2:41 pm
Just wow - I was noticing this on V4 last week and was scratching my head a bit and then I decided to ignore it...

So here is another reason to update to V5.

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Dell Inspiron 7591 (2 in 1) 16Gb.
Studio One Pro 6.x, Windows 11 Pro 64 bit, also running it on Mac OS Catalina via dual boot (experimental).
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by [email protected] on Mon Jul 04, 2022 6:52 pm
Still broken in 5.5. It's intermittent, bit of a luck dip so not usable for pro work with deadlines.

macOS 12.5, mac book pro 16 inch M1 2020, Audient iD4, Launch key 37. Bitwig 4.4. Studio One v6 and Logic 10.7.
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by jazzundso on Tue Jul 05, 2022 3:16 am
Can't reproduce this here. I haven't had any issues with negative track delay since the fix in 2020. Working fine here.

Can you please provide any steps to reproduce these problems or videos that show the wrong behavior?

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by PreAl on Tue Jul 05, 2022 3:44 am
.. and please put your specs in your signature. I would also review and study the entire thread,.it may offer a solution.

Intel i9 9900K (Gigabyte Z390 DESIGNARE motherboard), 32GB RAM, EVGA Geforce 1070 (Nvidia drivers).
Dell Inspiron 7591 (2 in 1) 16Gb.
Studio One Pro 6.x, Windows 11 Pro 64 bit, also running it on Mac OS Catalina via dual boot (experimental).
Presonus Quantum 2626, Presonus Studio 26c, Focusrite Saffire Pro 40, Faderport Classic (1.45), Atom SQ, Atom Pad, Maschine Studio, Octapad SPD-30, Roland A300, a number of hardware synths.
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by [email protected] on Wed Jul 06, 2022 12:39 pm
I'm on macOS 12.3.1 2019 MBP 16, i7, 64gb ram using S1 5.5.2 and the latest version of Kontakt as a VST3 (not AU). With Areia Strings ( Audio Imperia ) loaded on a track, I set the recommended negative delay to -123 ms, then I test with a fast 16th note pattern, from bar 1 it plays in sync, but when I start form further down the timeline, say bar 10 the playback is scrambled, notes are missing and out of sync. This is also the case if I copy, say a 4 bar clip, to a position later in the timeline. The same issues occur with other libraries using Kontakt i.e Cinematic Studio Strings. I haven't tested Spitfire or Sine players yet.
I hope this makes my situation clearer.

macOS 12.5, mac book pro 16 inch M1 2020, Audient iD4, Launch key 37. Bitwig 4.4. Studio One v6 and Logic 10.7.
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by jazzundso on Wed Jul 06, 2022 6:45 pm
Is this only during playback or are mixdowns affected as well?

Which audio interface do you use? And what is your buffer size?

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Core i7 3.24 GHz, Windows 10, 24 GB RAM, RME HDSP 9632, PreSonus FaderPort, PreSonus Monitorstation, PreSonus Eris 5

Clavia Nord Stage 3 - Moog Sub 37 - YAMAHA MoXF6 - M-Audio Axiom Pro 61 - Kawai ES-920 - Studio One 5 - Notion 6 - Orchestral Tools Junkie XL Horns, ProjectSAM Symphobia, Cinematic Studio Series, Strezov Sampling Afflatus, VSL Synchron Special Edition, KOMPLETE 9 Ultimate
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by [email protected] on Wed Jul 06, 2022 8:21 pm
Playback, I haven't tested a mixdown. Interface is Persons studio 26c and buffer is 256

macOS 12.5, mac book pro 16 inch M1 2020, Audient iD4, Launch key 37. Bitwig 4.4. Studio One v6 and Logic 10.7.
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by [email protected] on Sun Nov 27, 2022 12:26 pm
Is anyone still having issues with negative delay on midi tracks ? Just upgraded to S1 v6 and Negative delay seems to be behaving.

macOS 12.5, mac book pro 16 inch M1 2020, Audient iD4, Launch key 37. Bitwig 4.4. Studio One v6 and Logic 10.7.
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by PreAl on Sun Nov 27, 2022 2:06 pm
[email protected] wroteIs anyone still having issues with negative delay on midi tracks ? Just upgraded to S1 v6 and Negative delay seems to be behaving.


Full specs in your signature please.if that's OK.

If you've gone through this thread you will notice there seems to be two different behaviours for windows and Mac, and it's not that widespread any more (and apparently fixed). Please check through it all to make sure you've tried the suggestions.

Intel i9 9900K (Gigabyte Z390 DESIGNARE motherboard), 32GB RAM, EVGA Geforce 1070 (Nvidia drivers).
Dell Inspiron 7591 (2 in 1) 16Gb.
Studio One Pro 6.x, Windows 11 Pro 64 bit, also running it on Mac OS Catalina via dual boot (experimental).
Presonus Quantum 2626, Presonus Studio 26c, Focusrite Saffire Pro 40, Faderport Classic (1.45), Atom SQ, Atom Pad, Maschine Studio, Octapad SPD-30, Roland A300, a number of hardware synths.

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