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I need to be able to scroll smoothly through my tracks timeline with my shuttle wheel on my control surface. How do I set this up?
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by Jemusic on Thu Mar 14, 2019 2:18 pm
What is the control surface?

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by jeffstuckey on Thu Mar 14, 2019 4:26 pm
It is the Behringer X-Touch
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by roblof on Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:34 am
Studio One can not do smooth scrolling. Not even with their own controllers. You are unfortunately restricted only scrolling to bars...

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by Lokeyfly on Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:52 am
roblof wroteStudio One can not do smooth scrolling. Not even with their own controllers. You are unfortunately restricted only scrolling to bars...


One way I came across smooth scrolling was using a touch mouse. You just move your finger from side to side and S1 scrolls very smoothly this way.

On a side note, there are gestures that can be used with a touch mouse, but those won't be of much use with Studio One so don't bother. My point is that I did find a very usable way of smoothly moving along the timeline with a touch mouse. Works well.

Shuttle is not the best with S1, but there are many functions that put your playback cursor instantly into places where you need to be such as markers, loop points (beginning or end), last played start point, or events. The little you put into markers will pay off big. That is really one button access with the keypad, or use key commands. Shuttle movement for the sake of scrolling around at long distances will tend to be most useful with very close editing.

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by jeffstuckey on Tue Mar 19, 2019 3:29 pm
Thanks for the heads up. So there is nothing that can be done to do smooth scrolling at all? A plugin or anything?
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by Nip on Wed Mar 20, 2019 6:26 am
Navigating timeline I do in three ways
a) use a Contour Shuttle Express for left hand, having jog wheel jump bar at a time, and the ring zoom timeline in/out.
This means right hand can be on mouse at the same time, or use a keyboard key.
b) using numpad +/- keys to jump between markers
c) assing keys to Forward and Rewind, and assign those to two buttons on Shuttle Express for smooth movement.
A really short press move smoothly just a little bit, instead of full bars.

Really wish for multiple marker tracks, so we can make different set of markers easily activating depending on what kind of work we are doing. In comparison I navigate markers more than anything else. In Cubase I used this frequently to have sets for recording positions instead of using various preroll and stuff. One marker track i seconds timebase for video scenes etc.

I also wish for a key command to move timeline, without touching cursor position - like you can do on scrollbar.

I am to investigate if you can export/import markertracks and make macro to do that in a flash in StudioOne. Simulate multiple marker tracks, kind of.

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by PreAl on Mon May 22, 2023 5:22 pm
Has this been sorted yet? If not it's kinda nuts this issue of only scrolling one bar at a time has been going on so long.

I read a review somewhere that stated the Faderport One V2 had coarse and fine scrolling. Not sure I believe them. My faderport classic and Atom controllers don't want to play ball, and nor does my Maschine studio set up with a Mackie template.

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by garyshepherd on Tue May 23, 2023 4:24 am
Plus Autoscroll does not work properly - it turns off when you try and edit . Please upvote my feature request.

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by PreAl on Tue May 23, 2023 6:59 am
garyshepherd wrotePlus Autoscroll does not work properly - it turns off when you try and edit . Please upvote my feature request.

https://answers.presonus.com/76412/auto ... 412#q76412


Done.

IMHO if this isn't expected behaviour then it's a bug not an enhancement.

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by Lokeyfly on Tue May 23, 2023 9:06 pm
Gary and I have been punching this speedbag, for a while now (and will continue to do so). One of us will bump the request post periodically. It's a nuisance, usually about 10% of the editing time, and that's just plain unacceptable.

It's definately, on my top five head scratcher idiosyncrasies with Studio One.

It's expected behavior for the meek. Not the one's who actually put the time in with intensive editing.
Its a feature for doodlers. This would never fly with PT.

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by ianaeillo on Wed May 24, 2023 1:33 am
Lokeyfly wroteIt's expected behavior for the meek. Not the one's who actually put the time in with intensive editing.
Its a feature for doodlers. This would never fly with PT.


Exactly. It truly so frustrating I still do album editing in PT. I truly cannot stand it.

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by garyshepherd on Wed May 24, 2023 4:17 am
Lokeyfly wroteIt's expected behavior for the meek. Not the one's who actually put the time in with intensive editing.
Its a feature for doodlers. This would never fly with PT.

The Support Ticket reply said this was intentional editing behaviour. When I raised it at an eMeetup, it was received with coolness and some said this was the behaviour you would want when editing. Huh? I don't get it.

This shouldn't be a Feature Request - it's a bug you can't defend. If you don't want Autoscroll on when editing - then turn it off!! The default behaviour should not be the wrong way round.

Anyone who spends anytime editing will find how frustrating this behaviour is. We are not rocking the boat - Studio One is almost perfect for me. But Autoscroll switching off when you make even minor changes in the Arrange view and you see the cursor slipping off the edge of the screen out of view while the music still plays drives you mad.

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by PreAl on Wed May 24, 2023 4:23 am
Well there is user speak and there is dev speak.in an agile environment.

User speak:

The tap isn't working in the rest room, fix it!

Dev speak:

The tap has never worked in the rest room, therefore there is nothing to fix.

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by Lokeyfly on Thu May 25, 2023 9:00 am
Garyshepherd wrote: ....."This shouldn't be a Feature Request - it's a bug you can't defend. If you don't want Autoscroll on when editing - then turn it off!! The default behaviour should not be the wrong way round.


I don't believe it's a bug. We can all agree that Autoscroll has some benefits to its merit. Autoscroll works fine about 90% of the time. Where it falls short is that it doesn't serve the full off/on manual process. Off means off. Not off, until the program deems it necessary to turn Autoscroll back on (by re scaling, etc. ).
It more like an unfinished feature.
Seems pretty clear. I think that's a fair assessment.

I'd be happy to share those experiences how turning off Autoscroll fully, would benefit over its current state. That would take some professional interaction based on someone from Presonus who knows those idiosyncrasies and not be simply told, it should work for you.

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by PreAl on Thu May 25, 2023 1:43 pm
Lokeyfly wrote
I don't believe it's a bug.


Lokeyfly wroteIt more like an unfinished feature.


PreAl wroteWell there is user speak and there is dev speak.in an agile environment.

User speak:

The tap isn't working in the rest room, fix it!

Dev speak:

The tap has never worked in the rest room, therefore there is nothing to fix.


And there we have it :)

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by donaldbaarns on Thu May 25, 2023 4:50 pm
PreAl wroteHas this been sorted yet? If not it's kinda nuts this issue of only scrolling one bar at a time has been going on so long.

I read a review somewhere that stated the Faderport One V2 had coarse and fine scrolling. Not sure I believe them. My faderport classic and Atom controllers don't want to play ball, and nor does my Maschine studio set up with a Mackie template.


I don't know exactly what this means: Does this mean imitating the scrolling action of "Shift+Scroll Wheel"? Or a mouse that has a thumb scroll wheel? (My Logitech scrolls horizontally via the thumbwheel...)

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by PreAl on Fri May 26, 2023 7:44 am
roblof wroteStudio One can not do smooth scrolling. Not even with their own controllers. You are unfortunately restricted only scrolling to bars...


PreAl wroteHas this been sorted yet? If not it's kinda nuts this issue of only scrolling one bar at a time has been going on so long.

I read a review somewhere that stated the Faderport One V2 had coarse and fine scrolling. Not sure I believe them. My faderport classic and Atom controllers don't want to play ball, and nor does my Maschine studio set up with a Mackie template.


donaldbaarns wroteI don't know exactly what this means: Does this mean imitating the scrolling action of "Shift+Scroll Wheel"? Or a mouse that has a thumb scroll wheel? (My Logitech scrolls horizontally via the thumbwheel...)


So you can scroll smoothly, or move the timeline smoothly, less than one bar at a time?
If so please show me a video and exactly how to do it.

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by Lokeyfly on Fri May 26, 2023 8:18 am
Exactly. It's about scrolling smoothly. From the OP's request on.
Unfortunately l, using any 3rd party device such as a shuttle wheel, or control surface containing a shuttle wheel still will not scroll smoothly. Yes, the Fader port has course and fine adjustment but it is still in increments. Not what the OP or some others want.

This can also scroll if desired or set the playhead along the timeline, depending on what the user is looking to do.

The issue is inherent in how Studio One moves when shuttling/scrolling. Many are used to the Mackie HUI protocol where shuttle moved smooth. Picture, a reel to reel tape recorder when editing. Such a Mackie controller with a shuttle wheel used in PT, Cubase, Nuendo, and others will be smoothly varuable.

It's been an FR for quite a while.

For smooth scrolling, I offered using a Micrisoft touch mouse which actually for whatever is installed with its windows driver, is completely smooth. You whisk your finger along the top and it moves the left/right scroll super fine, or fast depending on finger speed.

Studio One's scroll (or kack of shuttle as well) is not a bug but inherent in its design.

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by PreAl on Fri May 26, 2023 9:29 am
Ultimately, however you categorise it, I feel if you've bought a faderport, or an atom or any controller that has a dial for scrolling, even a mouse dial...you certainly are not getting your money's worth. This is basic functionality that is missing and a workflow killer. I'm sure I had better scrolling on my Amiga.

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