For tempo changes to work smoothly:
- every event must have its native tempo set
- every track must be set to ‘timestretch’ (or to ‘follow’ for tracks with short samples)

Then everything will stay in line with the tempo track.

All set to timestretch...still only click track changes tempo...the others don't change at all.

That is because those tracks most likely do not have tempos set in the inspector for each track.
S1 has to know the original tempo of the track in order to stretch it.

When I open inspector and go to each track individually, I set the tempo on each track where it says NONE SET...ONLY the click track moves when I enter the tempo...the rest are unaffected as I go to each one and enter a tempo.

Pro Tools does this in one click...I'm looking at 24 clicks?

And so we're clear...my click track is literally recorded into the song first..it's not an internal clock click....it's just a .wav file like all the rest of the tracks.

grumpops wroteWhen I open inspector and go to each track individually, I set the tempo on each track where it says NONE SET...ONLY the click track moves when I enter the tempo...the rest are unaffected as I go to each one and enter a tempo.

Pro Tools does this in one click...I'm looking at 24 clicks?

Is there more than one event on the track?
The tempo is actually per event.


You can do a "select all" Ctrl + A and enter the original tempo once.

Nope..one .wav track...
Each is an instrument or, if I needed to record backing vox, did that.

We're a tracks using (can't do the gigs otherwise) Casino band.
Each track is a single instrument single event from beginning to end.

I'm pretty certain that S1 was NEVER designed for what I'm doing and each new incarnation moves it further and further away from live use friendly.

and last time I tried to have ALL tracks selected when I made a change..it only changed on the one I actually entered it.

Anything recorded in Studio One will automatically get its tempo data set from the tempo track.

If you use a prerecorded click to play to then the tempo data in your recordings can be meaningless. The only way to make sure you get the correct tempo data in your recorded material is to play to Studio One’s metronome.

As JP wrote, Studio One needs to know the original/native tempo of any material used in your song. This can be one fixed tempo or a tempo map (for material with tempo changes). Without this information Studio One cannot determine where and how to stretch or squeeze the material to make it follow the tempo track.

One last tip: When working with the tempo track and tempo changes it may help to have Studio One’s timebase set to “bars” rather than “seconds”. Made it easier for me to see what’s happening

grumpops wroteI'm pretty certain that S1 was NEVER designed for what I'm doing and each new incarnation moves it further and further away from live use friendly.

grumpops wroteok, so, I'm sure I'm missing something very obvious but.
Why, when I'e got 12 tracks....I change the tempo track from say...120 to 123...ONLY THE TOP/CLICK track changes....

Do I actually have to use the Inspector and go through every single track and alter the tempos in fractions? or is there a way to make the ENTIRE thing move with a tempo change?

S1 works very well for what you are trying to do. I use it every day.
I suggest you get the next level of detail.
viewtopic.php?f=151&t=17142
Picture or even better a video would help a lot, but if not:"
Your recorded tick track is moving with the tempo change right?
Jsut pick one track lets say the next one and confirm that that file also has a tempo and timestretch is set for the track.
Dramatically drag the tempo of the song and you should see in real time those two files shrink and grow.

I took one of the songs...deleted it.

Started fresh with NEW song...
On the start screen...Selected STRETCH AUDIO FILES TO SONG TEMPO...which I assume means to whatever the assigned tempo is of the track I'm bringing in.
Set the tempo to 125
Didn't think about the bars..cuz I always use seconds...

Redid the 12 tracks....While I thought I've always done this..apparently not...this time, it's working.
I'll try using Bars instead of seconds as well.

Well, I've gotten three to work....now I have to redo a bunch unless that setting can be altered with song already created and saved once.

It can change after the fact if the files have tempos.

That seems to have cleared the problem up.
This is what happens when you're a musician first and working with a DAW.
Now on the playback side...Oh do I wish there was a less labor intense way to use the tracks in a live situation where I can't have more than 2-4 seconds between songs...

Oh Lordy this may get wordy...lol
What I have to do is..
start with...blabla.song and open that up with all it's tracks, processing, etc...
The click and whatever else I may want to put in the cue line I'll assign to sub 1

The main "program" material (the horns, keyboardists, and extra 12 vocalists I don't have to pay...lol) is in stereo on Main L/R and

any Backing Vox I may have recorded in to fatten things up goes out on Sub 2.

I then use
Song> Export Mixdown
Then select .wav as the output give it the name I want it to have and location I want it stored...and check to insure name matches output.
So..
For example, I always *habit now* export the program material first...all the instruments not on stage..All tracks with MAIN showing on the Mixer scribble just below Input L+R, will output for this setting as a L/R stereo track.
Check the location you're sending it to...and OK...
Ding...Track one for what you perform with done.

Then do the same thing again for Sub 1 (click and cue tracks)
and Sub 2 (Backing vox or some vox efx too difficult to reproduce are "blended" in...lol)
For each song title, these three .wav files go into a folder with that song's name under the heading Performance Files.
So my setlist says..blah blah blah to break (one hour)
I go to the folders for each song, in order, on the setlist.
Open the first one...Highlight all three files and then drag them in so top file is Bvox, middle is stereo program, and bottom is the click with intro/outro cues.
Then the next one gets dragged in just below and at the end of the first one. (so as to maintain that 2-4 seconds between songs thing.)
Next one is back at the top of the transport and back and forth like a checkerboard.
Then you can adjust the ends of one to the beginning of the next...Plan in short breaks so the Vocalists can hydrate or at least get a quick drink while chatting the crowd a bit...usually only two per set.
And this can work...and ironically, I NEVER have this issue with tempos...if I want to change a Tempo on one of the songs...I get the cursor to the space between where the last song ended, and before the next click starts... and insert a Tempo Track marker..then set a tempo and VOILA...the three tracks move as they should...and the rest of the tracks move either right or left to accomodate the change.
AFTER ALL THAT....
Then I have to go back, create an automation track for external devices.
Three TC Helicon voice live 3 Vox Processors...3 of them, Drummer uses Acoustic AND a TD 10-1 so, control the TD 10 head, and control at least the program change function between songs, on my Axe Effects Ultra II MK XL,,,that's a bit time consuming.
Oh but if I could write those midi instructions when the file is still in it's .Song format....and also EXPORT THEM as I can the audio files...OMG that would be AMAZING and I could stop looking harder and harder at Pro Tools....lol

I have hundreds of .song files and most of it stuff I'll never ever use again...lol
When putting together a show,
I open a blank new song
And then one after the other, go to the folders where those three .wav files made via export went for each song..
All will be the same.
Song name (means instrumental program material)
Song name clk (means click track)
Song name Bvox (means backing vocals...)

And then begin dragging them in one after the other in the set list order of the next set...
Then have to go back to the beginning and start writing the midi code for the set as well.
Would LOVE to be able to somehow export that, just as midi data...to some other file in the computer.

AFAIK what you want to do is totally possible in Studio One, but it will be a lot easier when you start using S1’s tempo track and metronome as intended

For automation you can use an instrument track. Instrument tracks accept MIDI files just like audio tracks accept WAV files. Here's a video (probably one of many) to show you how to to set that up.

You're not getting what I meant by automation.

I'm controlling three vocal processors, a Roland Drum brain, and my Axe Ultra with Midi.
I CANNOT move that midi anywhere once created in a .song file..if I make the .wavs I need for performance...the midi has to be written every time for every new setlist.

? Sure you can export automation to a midi file. Right-click on the event, scroll to ‘Instrument Parts’ and select ‘Export Parts to MIDI File’...

For ease of use make sure that the start of the automation event envelope lines up with the other material pertaining to that song.