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by frank.crow on Tue Jan 08, 2019 1:57 pm

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I’m moving toward a more hybrid approach. I own a couple of pieces of outboard gear & am planning on buying more.

I would really appreciate any advice, tips & experiences you all could share concerning utilizing pipeline XT.

It’s actually surprising how little information is out there.

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by jcrakes on Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:57 pm

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I'm in the same boat as you... wish there was a little more info on Pipeline XT available.

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by Tacman7 on Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:54 pm

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New manual has a section about it.

PG 274 (aka 283)

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by frank.crow on Mon Jan 14, 2019 5:40 pm

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Tacman7 wroteNew manual has a section about it.

PG 274 (aka 283)

Do you have a link to this manual? Mine doesn’t have anything pipeline related on those pages.

by dgkenney on Mon Jan 14, 2019 5:43 pm

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I use it quite often with external compressors and eq on tracks as well as external stereo eq and bus compression on the output two track. Also use it on project page with final "album" burns or digital distribution. I don't do anything fancy and it is mostly live band type of audio but if I can be of any help, feel free to ask.

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by dgkenney on Mon Jan 14, 2019 5:47 pm

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frank.crow wrote
Tacman7 wroteNew manual has a section about it.

PG 274 (aka 283)

Do you have a link to this manual? Mine doesn’t have anything pipeline related on those pages.

https://pae-web.presonusmusic.com/downl ... Manual.pdf

by frank.crow on Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:23 pm

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dgkenney wroteI use it quite often with external compressors and eq on tracks as well as external stereo eq and bus compression on the output two track. Also use it on project page with final "album" burns or digital distribution. I don't do anything fancy and it is mostly live band type of audio but if I can be of any help, feel free to ask.

Thank you

I’m currently using it to pipeline in a dbx 160a on Kick & Snare. Wow
I am thinking of using it to pipeline in my VLA II sort of like a LA2A on orchestral stuff.
I’m hoping to pickup a 1176 & Pultec clone pretty soon.
I’m really liking this hybrid workflow so far.

by Tacman7 on Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:54 pm

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Sure Direct link: https://pae-web.presonusmusic.com/downl ... Manual.pdf

by frank.crow on Tue Jan 15, 2019 11:16 am

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Tacman7 wroteSure Direct link: https://pae-web.presonusmusic.com/downl ... Manual.pdf

Thanks
I thought I had the most current but my pipeline section still showed the pre XT version.

by dgkenney on Tue Jan 15, 2019 11:41 am

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frank.crow wroteThank you

I’m currently using it to pipeline in a dbx 160a on Kick & Snare. Wow
I am thinking of using it to pipeline in my VLA II sort of like a LA2A on orchestral stuff.
I’m hoping to pickup a 1176 & Pultec clone pretty soon.
I’m really liking this hybrid workflow so far.

I love the hybrid approach. Using Pultecs, 1176's and 2a's, Lexicon, etc without significant latency on tracks (either when recording or afterward processing) gives me nice results*. I am convinced that I get a better result than strictly in the box with VST's only. On the two track I use a VLA II in line with a Black Lion AM/CHA1 Equalizer followed by a TK BC1-S

It may be simply psycho-acoustics and in a blind test I may not be able to reliably tell the difference from top notch VST's, but it gives me greater confidence and as I said, more the results I am looking for. Besides, twiddling real knobs is always fun

(*Truth in advertising edit - except for the Lexicon, they are all clones. )

by frank.crow on Tue Jan 15, 2019 4:15 pm

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You have the VLA II as well? What do you think about it? Up until now I was using it as the 2nd compressor in my 2 compressor Bass DI Chain. Basically I used the Art Pro Channel II followed by the VLA II. The tubes gave me a buttery almost chorus type tone.

I’m curious to see if these benefits will translate using the pipeline XT method on other tracks.

by dgkenney on Tue Jan 15, 2019 6:59 pm

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I am a fan of using multiple compressors in-line with minimum ratio and thresholds rather than a single compressor with more drastic settings. (Also a fan of editing event clips to assure a more even volume level so that the compressor adds a coloration more than acting as a volume control)

I swapped out the original tubes of the VLA II for some NOS and I am quite please with it as an initial compressor in the chain. I don't hit it hard but it contributes to a more hefty smooth signal for further processing. My favorite compressors at the moment ( that I can afford

) are the Warm 1176 and the Klark Teknik KT-2a. For the 2-bus, as I said earlier, I am lucky to have a TK Audio BC1-S that I absolutely love for the finishing touch.

All the outboard eq's I use are for broad equalization changes. Anything surgical I think VST's in the box are easier to deal with and do a better job for pinpointing problem areas.

by frank.crow on Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:36 am

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Right on I’m so glad you mentioned the Klark products, those are the clones I’m looking at. My friend turned me onto the Pultec and when I further researched I found the 1176.

by frank.crow on Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:37 am

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dgkenney wrote
All the outboard eq's I use are for broad equalization changes. Anything surgical I think VST's in the box are easier to deal with and do a better job for pinpointing problem areas.

I totally agree

I super appreciate all your help, In a couple of months I hope to have the new gear. Would it be ok to direct message you with questions?

by dgkenney on Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:11 pm

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frank.crow wrote
I super appreciate all your help, In a couple of months I hope to have the new gear. Would it be ok to direct message you with questions?

Absolutely - any time. Can't vouch for the KT1176 since I don't have one but the KT-2a is sweet

by Lawrence on Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:47 pm

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Hey Dan: Boscoe says "what up?!"

Try the Fat Channel Everest C100A on the Master Bus with the attack and release bothj set to slow. That thing is really nice. https://shop.presonus.com/Fat-Channel-P ... Compressor

by dgkenney on Thu Jan 17, 2019 7:25 pm

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Lawrence wroteHey Dan: Boscoe says "what up?!"

All my best to Boscoe, always

Working on a lot of local bands and performers. Turning live stuff into some sort of EP or streaming
release. Haven't had much time or energy for any of my own.

What have you been doing?

by Lawrence on Fri Jan 18, 2019 5:44 am

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Cool Dan.. Sounds like fun. I haven't been up to much musically, doing a little mixing for some local vanity projects and growing older and uglier daily. :mrgreen:

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