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I’m moving toward a more hybrid approach. I own a couple of pieces of outboard gear & am planning on buying more.
I would really appreciate any advice, tips & experiences you all could share concerning utilizing pipeline XT. It’s actually surprising how little information is out there. Thanks |
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I'm in the same boat as you... wish there was a little more info on Pipeline XT available.
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New manual has a section about it.
PG 274 (aka 283) |
Tacman7 wroteNew manual has a section about it. Do you have a link to this manual? Mine doesn’t have anything pipeline related on those pages. |
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I use it quite often with external compressors and eq on tracks as well as external stereo eq and bus compression on the output two track. Also use it on project page with final "album" burns or digital distribution. I don't do anything fancy and it is mostly live band type of audio but if I can be of any help, feel free to ask.
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frank.crow wroteTacman7 wroteNew manual has a section about it. https://pae-web.presonusmusic.com/downl ... Manual.pdf
It's all down hill from what's in front of the microphone. - Bob Olhsson
And yet everyone wonders why, alone in your room with a laptop and a bunch of plugins, you can't compete S1/3 Pro 64 ***Lenovo i5 @ 3.1ghz running Windows 10 x64 Pro with Syba PCI-Express 1394b/1394a (2B1A) Card, TI Chipset, SD-PEX30009 *** Levono E520 with SYBA SD-EXPC34-2F 1394A Firewire 2-Port ExpressCard *** Win 10 x64 Pro ***MOTU Ultralite AVB*** Audient ASP/880*** Digidesign Eleven Rack, PT 10*** Firestudio Mobile |
dgkenney wroteI use it quite often with external compressors and eq on tracks as well as external stereo eq and bus compression on the output two track. Also use it on project page with final "album" burns or digital distribution. I don't do anything fancy and it is mostly live band type of audio but if I can be of any help, feel free to ask. Thank you I’m currently using it to pipeline in a dbx 160a on Kick & Snare. Wow I am thinking of using it to pipeline in my VLA II sort of like a LA2A on orchestral stuff. I’m hoping to pickup a 1176 & Pultec clone pretty soon. I’m really liking this hybrid workflow so far. |
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Sure Direct link: https://pae-web.presonusmusic.com/downl ... Manual.pdf
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Tacman7 wroteSure Direct link: https://pae-web.presonusmusic.com/downl ... Manual.pdf Thanks I thought I had the most current but my pipeline section still showed the pre XT version. |
frank.crow wroteThank you I love the hybrid approach. Using Pultecs, 1176's and 2a's, Lexicon, etc without significant latency on tracks (either when recording or afterward processing) gives me nice results*. I am convinced that I get a better result than strictly in the box with VST's only. On the two track I use a VLA II in line with a Black Lion AM/CHA1 Equalizer followed by a TK BC1-S It may be simply psycho-acoustics and in a blind test I may not be able to reliably tell the difference from top notch VST's, but it gives me greater confidence and as I said, more the results I am looking for. Besides, twiddling real knobs is always fun  (*Truth in advertising edit - except for the Lexicon, they are all clones. )
It's all down hill from what's in front of the microphone. - Bob Olhsson
And yet everyone wonders why, alone in your room with a laptop and a bunch of plugins, you can't compete S1/3 Pro 64 ***Lenovo i5 @ 3.1ghz running Windows 10 x64 Pro with Syba PCI-Express 1394b/1394a (2B1A) Card, TI Chipset, SD-PEX30009 *** Levono E520 with SYBA SD-EXPC34-2F 1394A Firewire 2-Port ExpressCard *** Win 10 x64 Pro ***MOTU Ultralite AVB*** Audient ASP/880*** Digidesign Eleven Rack, PT 10*** Firestudio Mobile |
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You have the VLA II as well? What do you think about it? Up until now I was using it as the 2nd compressor in my 2 compressor Bass DI Chain. Basically I used the Art Pro Channel II followed by the VLA II. The tubes gave me a buttery almost chorus type tone.
I’m curious to see if these benefits will translate using the pipeline XT method on other tracks. |
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I am a fan of using multiple compressors in-line with minimum ratio and thresholds rather than a single compressor with more drastic settings. (Also a fan of editing event clips to assure a more even volume level so that the compressor adds a coloration more than acting as a volume control)
I swapped out the original tubes of the VLA II for some NOS and I am quite please with it as an initial compressor in the chain. I don't hit it hard but it contributes to a more hefty smooth signal for further processing. My favorite compressors at the moment ( that I can afford ) are the Warm 1176 and the Klark Teknik KT-2a. For the 2-bus, as I said earlier, I am lucky to have a TK Audio BC1-S that I absolutely love for the finishing touch.All the outboard eq's I use are for broad equalization changes. Anything surgical I think VST's in the box are easier to deal with and do a better job for pinpointing problem areas.
It's all down hill from what's in front of the microphone. - Bob Olhsson
And yet everyone wonders why, alone in your room with a laptop and a bunch of plugins, you can't compete S1/3 Pro 64 ***Lenovo i5 @ 3.1ghz running Windows 10 x64 Pro with Syba PCI-Express 1394b/1394a (2B1A) Card, TI Chipset, SD-PEX30009 *** Levono E520 with SYBA SD-EXPC34-2F 1394A Firewire 2-Port ExpressCard *** Win 10 x64 Pro ***MOTU Ultralite AVB*** Audient ASP/880*** Digidesign Eleven Rack, PT 10*** Firestudio Mobile |
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Right on I’m so glad you mentioned the Klark products, those are the clones I’m looking at. My friend turned me onto the Pultec and when I further researched I found the 1176.
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dgkenney wrote I totally agree I super appreciate all your help, In a couple of months I hope to have the new gear. Would it be ok to direct message you with questions? |
frank.crow wrote Absolutely - any time. Can't vouch for the KT1176 since I don't have one but the KT-2a is sweet
It's all down hill from what's in front of the microphone. - Bob Olhsson
And yet everyone wonders why, alone in your room with a laptop and a bunch of plugins, you can't compete S1/3 Pro 64 ***Lenovo i5 @ 3.1ghz running Windows 10 x64 Pro with Syba PCI-Express 1394b/1394a (2B1A) Card, TI Chipset, SD-PEX30009 *** Levono E520 with SYBA SD-EXPC34-2F 1394A Firewire 2-Port ExpressCard *** Win 10 x64 Pro ***MOTU Ultralite AVB*** Audient ASP/880*** Digidesign Eleven Rack, PT 10*** Firestudio Mobile |
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Hey Dan: Boscoe says "what up?!"
Try the Fat Channel Everest C100A on the Master Bus with the attack and release bothj set to slow. That thing is really nice. https://shop.presonus.com/Fat-Channel-P ... Compressor |
Lawrence wroteHey Dan: Boscoe says "what up?!" All my best to Boscoe, always Working on a lot of local bands and performers. Turning live stuff into some sort of EP or streaming release. Haven't had much time or energy for any of my own. What have you been doing?
It's all down hill from what's in front of the microphone. - Bob Olhsson
And yet everyone wonders why, alone in your room with a laptop and a bunch of plugins, you can't compete S1/3 Pro 64 ***Lenovo i5 @ 3.1ghz running Windows 10 x64 Pro with Syba PCI-Express 1394b/1394a (2B1A) Card, TI Chipset, SD-PEX30009 *** Levono E520 with SYBA SD-EXPC34-2F 1394A Firewire 2-Port ExpressCard *** Win 10 x64 Pro ***MOTU Ultralite AVB*** Audient ASP/880*** Digidesign Eleven Rack, PT 10*** Firestudio Mobile |
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Cool Dan.. Sounds like fun. I haven't been up to much musically, doing a little mixing for some local vanity projects and growing older and uglier daily.
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