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Running into a strange occurence that has never happened before. When I mix down a song to my computer, the tempo of the entire track is either slowed down or sped up. I have changed nothing to my knowledge that would cause something like this to happen...

any thoughts?
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by salvadoredelle on Tue Oct 28, 2014 10:40 am
sounds like its the 44 / 48 K settings most likely... in your start up and set up--- if you have it set to 44 and play a 48 file it will play slow... 48 on 44 file will play fast... so set your system to 48 and stay there and make all your mixes at 48 and stay there... set up templates so they are all 48K and stay there... mix and match will send you in circles...

also if you import a track into a time line and have the time stretch on, it will time stretch that file to the time line tempo setting! turn it off or set it to the tempo of the song file and it will match and not stretch it.

your interface will also have to be in the same boat...

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by Timmy Ford on Tue Oct 28, 2014 11:08 am
thanks, I will try that
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by johnsaxon on Tue Oct 28, 2014 4:43 pm
salvadoredelle wrotesounds like its the 44 / 48 K settings most likely... in your start up and set up--- if you have it set to 44 and play a 48 file it will play slow... 48 on 44 file will play fast... so set your system to 48 and stay there and make all your mixes at 48 and stay there... set up templates so they are all 48K and stay there... mix and match will send you in circles...

also if you import a track into a time line and have the time stretch on, it will time stretch that file to the time line tempo setting! turn it off or set it to the tempo of the song file and it will match and not stretch it.

your interface will also have to be in the same boat...


How do you set your system to 48? Also, what if tracks were recorded at 44? Can you change to 48 even though you've already recorded tracks? Thanks.

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by -Luis- on Tue Oct 28, 2014 6:35 pm
How do you set your system to 48?

Change the Sample Rate in your AudioBox to 48.0 kHz
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Also, what if tracks were recorded at 44? Can you change to 48 even though you've already recorded tracks? Thanks.


Click on Song > Song Setup and change the Sample Rate there as well.
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by johnsaxon on Tue Oct 28, 2014 8:14 pm
Okay. I'll change the sample rate on both the song and the interface. I'm glad you told me about this now. Thanks.

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by johnsaxon on Thu Oct 30, 2014 5:39 pm
One of the mods on here (who presumably develops the software) is saying to stay at 44. I'm inclined to do what he says unless my song will speed up or slow down when I burn it. I want it to sound how it sounds when I play it back. Thanks.

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by mwright137 on Tue Nov 04, 2014 9:05 pm
Mods do not develop the Studio One software. We are simply here to moderate the forum.

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by Lawrence on Wed Nov 05, 2014 2:26 pm
johnsaxon wroteOne of the mods on here is saying to stay at 44. I'm inclined to do what he says unless my song will speed up or slow down when I burn it. I want it to sound how it sounds when I play it back. Thanks.

I suggested that rather than worry about it so much, just stay at 44.1 and keep it moving (your learning adventure) ... and if later (once you grasp all the other stuff) you want a higher sample rate because you don't think 44.1 sounds good enough, don't use 48k, use 88.2.

That was "random advice", not a rule. Record at whatever sample rate you want, you can still render a 44.1 file. One thing has nothing to do with the other except for the quality of sample rate conversion.
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by johnsaxon on Wed Nov 05, 2014 7:06 pm
LMike wrote
johnsaxon wroteOne of the mods on here is saying to stay at 44. I'm inclined to do what he says unless my song will speed up or slow down when I burn it. I want it to sound how it sounds when I play it back. Thanks.

I suggested that rather than worry about it so much, just stay at 44.1 and keep it moving (your learning adventure) ... and if later (once you grasp all the other stuff) you want a higher sample rate because you don't think 44.1 sounds good enough, don't use 48k, use 88.2.

That was "random advice", not a rule. Record at whatever sample rate you want, you can still render a 44.1 file. One thing has nothing to do with the other except for the quality of sample rate conversion.


But why are you recommending 88.2 as the next step as opposed to 48?

In short, there are two considerations. One is that all the tracks on my song up to now have been recorded at 44. The second is that I want the best recording possible. If you think it makes sense to stay at 44, I will. But what about the next song? Why not one of the higher numbers? And, if that makes sense, why 88 over 48? Please note that I plan to burn every song I record. Thanks.

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by mwright137 on Wed Nov 05, 2014 9:54 pm
Because 88.2 is two times 44.1 so the sample conversion is very easy.

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by johnsaxon on Wed Nov 05, 2014 11:24 pm
mwright137 wroteBecause 88.2 is two times 44.1 so the sample conversion is very easy.


Okay. It's probably a moot point though because it appears that Audiobox USB allows only 44.1 and 48.

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by mwright137 on Thu Nov 06, 2014 9:01 pm
Kee-rect!

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by mwright137 on Thu Nov 06, 2014 9:04 pm
But in all seriousness, 44.1k is the standard for CDs and 48k is the standard for video, which is where the MP3 compressions standard came from. So the general consensus is if you'll end up releasing to a CD, start in 44.1k and stay in 44.1k. If you'll end up in video or MP3, start in 48k and stay in 48k.

To be honest, the sample converters in Studio One are so good it probably doesn't matter anymore...

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by c3subang on Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:14 am
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salvadoredelle wrotesounds like its the 44 / 48 K settings most likely... in your start up and set up--- if you have it set to 44 and play a 48 file it will play slow... 48 on 44 file will play fast... so set your system to 48 and stay there and make all your mixes at 48 and stay there... set up templates so they are all 48K and stay there... mix and match will send you in circles...

also if you import a track into a time line and have the time stretch on, it will time stretch that file to the time line tempo setting! turn it off or set it to the tempo of the song file and it will match and not stretch it.

your interface will also have to be in the same boat...



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