Ever since installing 4.1.1, I've been having major issues with recording Midi Sustain Pedal during recording - it sounds right playing, but when recording I only get a quick jump from (0-127-0) each time I hold down the pedal. This of course results in no sustain during replay, with the exception of those quick blips.
Some of the past problems have apparently been fixed by removing and setting my keyboard up again. Others have suggested using the automation to make sure it works? Neither have solved the issue unfortunately. The strange thing is, S1 says the pedal works as intended - just the recording doesn't reflect that. Here's a screenshot, showing midi files recorded PRE update and POST update.
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christopherharlan1 wroteEver since installing 4.1.1, I've been having major issues with recording Midi Sustain Pedal during recording - it sounds right playing, but when recording I only get a quick jump from (0-127-0) each time I hold down the pedal. This of course results in no sustain during replay, with the exception of those quick blips. Same exact behavior…. W T F?
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I submitted a ticket... please do the same
Mine is Request #473003
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*** Update ***
This bug exists on any Instrument that is directly triggering a 3rd party VST instrument (Toontrack, Kontakt). However, when an Instrument track has no VST instrument attached the sustain pedal data is recorded properly. The data is recorded only as momentary on/off. The data will be properly recorded if Studio One's own Presence instrument is used... However, this is not an option for me.
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I thought that maybe it had to do with the whole low latency monitoring, but, doesn't matter either way it still does the same behavior...
A behavior that has been present since version 2+ apparently with the same exact presentation, but, this is the first I've ever experienced it.
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It sucks that we both have this issue, but I'm glad I'm not alone in having it. My ticket is Request #473019.
Unfortunately this bug affects me severely, as I 95% of my time use VST instruments (Kontakt or VST3).
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Glad you reported it, too
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I reported the same EXACT behavior 5 days ago and they asked me to delete my settings folder (apart from the license key)
I did that and it seems to have fixed it for now, but I know it will come back as I've done this before. I'm glad that other people are having this as it shows it's definitely a bug. I even took a QT movie of my screen when playing and recording the sustain, but on play back it not being there.. So frustrating. Try the fix of deleting the settings folder. Worked for me, but only temporary I reckon. Here's my original post about this.. viewtopic.php?f=151&t=28249&p=185854&hilit=sustain+pedal#p185854 |
My work around is to put a cat instrument of one instrument track... I don’t arm to record but I do click the monitor button so I can hear what I’m playing
I open a second instrument track that’s triggered by the same midi studio kwybkard... but I don’t load any instrument on the track mm Arm the track to record... when you play you’re hearing your cat instrument... once you’re done, just drag the instrument track that you recorded on the blank channel up to the instrument track with the vst... it works perfectly
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I am not at my computer but assume that this is the same issue that has been around for ages.
When latency is set high this problem happens. Does this always happen or only with a larger auto buffer? Maybe enabling or disabling low latency for software instruments makes a difference. In S1 all controller data is recorded with incorrect timing. For most controllers like volume you hardly notice this, but the controller timing issue is related to the sound card buffer. Higher buffer = worse control data timing. |
Not related to buffer
Set at 32 or 2048 same problem
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Here’s the response to my CS ticket... I’m in the middle of session so I can’t try it yet
Please reset your Studio One settings and reconfigure your MIDI devices. Go to Help>Open Settings folder. Copy the contents of the folder over to a folder on your desktop. Close S1 and delete the contents of the settings folder with the exception of the user.license file as well as the "Extensions" folder. Open S1 and go to Studio One>Options (Preferences on a Mac) to reconfigure your settings. Test to see if the problem is resolved. If it is not, please feel free to copy your settings files back over from the backup that you created in step 2. *If you are missing presets or Sound Sets after doing this, simply double-click one of your Sound Sets under Documents>Studio One>Sound Sets.
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I haven't been able to get my sustain pedal to work either. I'm using it to play MODO Bass, and want to use the pedal for slides. When I play the two notes with the pedal it sounds fine. But when I play back the recording, it recorded two distinct notes instead of a slide between the two.
I will try this out and see if it works. Thanks. |
toddjenkins wroteI haven't been able to get my sustain pedal to work either. I'm using it to play MODO Bass, and want to use the pedal for slides. When I play the two notes with the pedal it sounds fine. But when I play back the recording, it recorded two distinct notes instead of a slide between the two. Report back!
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Just back from a road trip. Same issue with my Nectar LX88. At least I know it's not my gear. Will submit a trouble ticket as well.
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So, I did this and I have a mixed report...
Still doesn't work on my current session... Or the last three sessions that i've been working on it the same bug is present. Again, this is only a problem recording... in my existing projects where the sustain had been properly recorded, playback is fine If I start a new song, the sustain is recorded properly.
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Crazy
That makes sense... but, dang, these sessions are tracking versions, so, hardly any plugins all Interesting that Modo Bass works perfectly in the same session and records proper sustain length... Everything else? Same bug
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I disabled all plugins on the session (other than 3rd party VSTis) and can report that this "fixed" the issue....
Hardly a true fix....
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