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Hi,

since the 4.1 update I am experiencing a breaking issue, where using the split tool, on a region that is only partly in view (because it exceeds the screen area at the given zoom level), or moving a region TO THE RIGHT (not to the left!) makes the whole view jump. I can't really find reason or a pattern, sometimes it jumps to some place in the newly formed even, sometimes it jumps right back to the start.

This happens with a completely vanilla S1 4.1 installation, on two different workstations, with no setting touched/changed from the default.

I can work around most anything but this makes editing absolutely unbearable, and Studio One 4.1 de facto unusable to me.

To be perfectly clear: What I am looking for is for the screen to not move at all, ever, when I make a cut, anywhere, at any zoom level, on anything. *Any* help towards that end would be very much appreciated.

Thank you so much in advance,
Jochen

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by PreAl on Tue Sep 25, 2018 8:01 am
This probably won't help but for fun I suggest you update to latest display driver via third party sites

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by jstummbillig on Tue Sep 25, 2018 8:03 am
Sadly, all drivers (on both workstations) are up to date. Can you (or anyone else) even replicate the issue? I am absolutely stunned that this issue seems to be flying under the radar.

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by PreAl on Tue Sep 25, 2018 8:07 am
jstummbillig wroteSadly, all drivers (on both workstations) are up to date.


Just checking. You aren't assuming this just because you ran Windows update? Thx.

And please give us your system and OS specs

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Dell Inspiron 7591 (2 in 1) 16Gb.
Studio One Pro 6.x, Windows 11 Pro 64 bit, also running it on Mac OS Catalina via dual boot (experimental).
Presonus Quantum 2626, Presonus Studio 26c, Focusrite Saffire Pro 40, Faderport Classic (1.45), Atom SQ, Atom Pad, Maschine Studio, Octapad SPD-30, Roland A300, a number of hardware synths.
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by jstummbillig on Tue Sep 25, 2018 8:16 am
No, that is not why I am assuming that :)

Windows 7 pro (2014)
i7 something
16gigs ram
ndivia gpu

Windows 10 pro (2018)
i7 something
32gigs ram
intel gpu

I don't have the exact components at hand and I am not in the studio to check right now but basically the two computers have nothing in common, apart from running a version of windows and an up to date studio one 4.1 with up to date system drivers. I also just tried it at home on my windows 10 laptop -- again, same issue.

If anyone could just fire up studio one and try to replicate this, please?

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by sebastianholtzer on Tue Sep 25, 2018 9:23 am
Guys have a look here at the german forum please. Someone found out what`s causing the Issue in your v4 and he has posted a video about how to reproduce this bug. It`s related to tempo automation:

https://forums.presonus.com/viewtopic.php?p=183637#p183637
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by PreAl on Tue Sep 25, 2018 10:07 am
Starting to feel I should have stuck with V3 till at least mid 2019. I think the bugs vs feature balance has definitely shifted. My fault I guess, I should not have upgraded so early.

Intel i9 9900K (Gigabyte Z390 DESIGNARE motherboard), 32GB RAM, EVGA Geforce 1070 (Nvidia drivers).
Dell Inspiron 7591 (2 in 1) 16Gb.
Studio One Pro 6.x, Windows 11 Pro 64 bit, also running it on Mac OS Catalina via dual boot (experimental).
Presonus Quantum 2626, Presonus Studio 26c, Focusrite Saffire Pro 40, Faderport Classic (1.45), Atom SQ, Atom Pad, Maschine Studio, Octapad SPD-30, Roland A300, a number of hardware synths.
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by BobF on Tue Sep 25, 2018 11:29 am
Try right-clicking the timeline and select timebase = time-linear if it isn't already selected.

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by codyhazelle on Tue Sep 25, 2018 3:32 pm
BobF wroteTry right-clicking the timeline and select timebase = time-linear if it isn't already selected.

This is the answer. I posted a thread about this a couple weeks ago.

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by jstummbillig on Tue Sep 25, 2018 4:20 pm
Thanks a lot!

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by robertgray3 on Tue Sep 25, 2018 5:23 pm
Yes, select Time Linear, this is a new bug with Beat Linear timebase in 4.1. Pretty frustrating when editing until you figure out how to avoid it

As usual resist the temptation/urging to reinstall all your drivers ;)

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by PreAl on Tue Sep 25, 2018 10:40 pm
robertgray3 wroteAs usual resist the temptation/urging to reinstall all your drivers ;)


Because updating drivers is illegal, twelve rabbits get shot every day because of it. Updating drivers always breaks systems because we are still living in 1997. Right? :roll:

Because trying something to see what happens should never be allowed when others have retrospective behind their belts.

This is 2018, everbody should be keeping everything up to date in an online world. Of course if you are completely offline and not installing anything else whatsoever then who cares.

Like I said do it for fun. Nothing to lose other than snarky know it all comments.

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by robertgray3 on Tue Sep 25, 2018 11:28 pm
Not illegal, just a colossal waste of the op’s time

Anyhow I’m fairly sure it was reported to the developers

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by Skaperverket on Wed Sep 26, 2018 12:50 am
PreAl wroteStarting to feel I should have stuck with V3 till at least mid 2019. I think the bugs vs feature balance has definitely shifted. My fault I guess, I should not have upgraded so early.


I feel ya. Still haven't upgraded over here. Could consider buying an upgrade to version 4 if the price is amazing during a Black Friday sale or something, but without installing it until all bugs are sorted out. Version 3 does most of the job adequately as it is, really, and all in all it suits me better than any other DAW out there, so I'm good.
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by stefanrauch1 on Wed Sep 26, 2018 2:51 pm
BobF wroteTry right-clicking the timeline and select timebase = time-linear if it isn't already selected.


Thank you!

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by briandeeley on Thu Sep 27, 2018 6:56 am
Thank you so much!!!!

First real work in 4,1 today and got this. Pulling my hair out.

Well, virtual hair.... :-(
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by robertgray3 on Thu Sep 27, 2018 7:41 am
briandeeley wroteThank you so much!!!!

First real work in 4,1 today and got this. Pulling my hair out.

Well, virtual hair.... :-(


Yeah I’m glad there’s a workaround, between this and the bug with drag and drop duplicating tracks with layers 4.1 is actually a bit annoying for my vocal work. Which is tough because it’s more stable for my other work :)

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by PreAl on Fri Sep 28, 2018 1:12 pm
robertgray3 wroteNot illegal, just a colossal waste of the op’s time


Thankyou SO much for your retrospective judgements. Really helpful for these forums I'm sure. Keep up the good work.

"As usual resist the temptation/urging to reinstall all your drivers" - meh.

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by BobF on Fri Sep 28, 2018 1:21 pm
OK guys ... back On Topic please.

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by Fer2010 on Thu Oct 18, 2018 2:54 pm
Thanks guys for pointing out the 'timebase' solution. I just searched the forum for answers on this weird problem and luckily found this thread. Let's hope it will be fixed on the next update.

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