ionian wrote

robertgray3 wroteHow is sequencing external instruments and then importing the audio a “workaround” and how do other DAWs make this easier?

I also would like to know. I came to PreSonus from Cakewalk, where it was always done that way - my hardware synths have their midi recorded to a midi track when I play them. Then subsequent plays, the midi plays back the synths. When I'm done with the song and ready to start mixing, I just create an audio track and then record the synth to the audio track and mute and hide the midi track. That's how it was always done in Cakewalk, and when I came to Studio One, that's how I continued to work with external synths.

I'm curious as to what this "external synth" method is that the other DAWs have as I wonder if there was an easier way to be doing this all these years.

robertgray3 wroteHow is sequencing external instruments and then importing the audio a “workaround” and how do other DAWs make this easier?

MisterE wrote

robertgray3 wroteHow is sequencing external instruments and then importing the audio a “workaround” and how do other DAWs make this easier?

First off, what you refer to as "importing the audio" refers to taking an already-created file and placing it somewhere on your Arrange page; what we're talking about here is playing notes on, say, a hardware workstation like a Yamaha Motif or a Korg Kronos, often in real time (or they could be sequenced if the workstation has a built-in sequencer) and recording them into S1.

External Instrument = for the point of this discussion, a hardware workstation, an older synthesizer, or a newer synth module or any device that has its own sounds you want Studio One to play.

Compare that to playing software VST instruments through a keyboard controller which often has no sounds of its own.

If you record notes on a MIDI controller you have set up in Studio One to play, say, a Kontakt VST, Studio one sets up a track in the Mixer page showing that track.

If you record notes on your hardware workstation like a Korg Kronos, Studio One doesn't set up a track in the Mixer page showing that track.

That is the huge inconvenience we're talking about, cause without a track in the Mixer window you have to make all the adjustments on your external instrument.

Hopefully I wrote that so you can picture it in your mind.

If, like growing numbers of people, you prefer playing VST instruments through keyboard controllers, you don't care.

If you have a perfectly functioning, non-extinct external instrument, then some of us care enough to leave the fold and seek better, more conventional, necessary MIDI support elsewhere.

Jemusic wroteIt would be nice like Mister E is saying if the external midi track showed up in the mixer. And could send midi volume etc to the synth. Plus Faderport would also see it then and be able to do all its functions.

MisterE wroteWhat would be nicer still would be seeing some official statement from Presonus developers along the lines of "We know that some of you have been wanting for years to have a channel appear in the Mixer representing your external instrument. We're not going to ever do that because of this and that ... " or, "We are going to do that at some point because of this and that."

Is that really too much to ask?

MisterE wroteAll we've ever heard from the company is its initial statements about what a great advantage it is to treat MIDI differently from other DAWs which appeared in the original manual from like 2011.

MisterE wroteFirst off, what you refer to as "importing the audio" refers to taking an already-created file and placing it somewhere on your Arrange page; what we're talking about here is playing notes on, say, a hardware workstation like a Yamaha Motif or a Korg Kronos, often in real time (or they could be sequenced if the workstation has a built-in sequencer).

Jemusic wroteI am assuming once an external midi track appears in the mixer (feature request) then Faderport should see it like all the other channels or one would hope.

I think this is the link you may be referring to:

https://answers.presonus.com/20758/inst ... 758#q20758

This request has only got 13 votes. (I voted!) but that is not high obviously. Unless there is another request that is very similar that has a lot more votes.

MisterE wrote[quote="robertgray3"So far it seems like “Channel Pan / mute / faded assigned to MIDI standard pan / mute / volume CCs” and “built in audio track for monitoring/record” seem to be what you’re getting at?

lisarowe wrote

BobF wrote

tommikujala wroteIs there a bug in "merge to stereo file" command in browser, when you select two mono audio files and right click. Crashes here on S1 4.1 mac OS X 10.13.6

I just replicated this in Win10. Studio One vanishes after a brief delay.

I'll submit a report on it.

Does anybody care about this problem?
I've heard nothing from Support about my ticket.
I uninstalled 4.1 and reinstalled 4.0.
I hope this will only be temporary.
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