81 postsPage 1 of 5
1, 2, 3, 4, 5
Hey all,
I had this happen in v3 and now continuing in v4. I've tried brand new templates, starting sessions from an empty template, but randomly I get my mixer resizing itself for no reason!!

It's been so frustrating and I'm not sure what causes it.. anyone getting this or have any ideas as to why it's happening??

Picture included so you can see what my mixer height is normally, and what happens randomly.

Thanks in advance!
Screen Shot 2018-05-30 at 7.59.40 PM.png

Producer/writer
Mac Pro 5,1 - OSX 10.11.6 - Studio One v4 - Apogee Symphony - SSL Sigma - Cranesong Avocet - Faderport 1 - Console One
User avatar
by Trucky on Wed May 30, 2018 10:23 pm
Not sure what's causing it, but you can adjust individually by holding [Shift] while you click and drag the top edge of the send. You can get all of your channels to line up by holding [Shift] and double clicking the top edge of the send that you want the others to sync to.

Sends.png
Sends.png (7.03 KiB) Viewed 2078 times

Please add your specs to your SIGNATURE.
Search the STUDIO ONE 4 ONLINE MANUAL. Access your MY.PRESONUS account.
OVERVIEW of how to get your issue fixed or the steps to create a SUPPORT TICKET.
Needs to include: 1) One Sentence Description 2) Expected Results 3) Actual Results 4) Steps to Reproduce.


Windows 10 Pro 64-bit (v1903: Build 18362.295), Studio One 4.5.3 Pro | Notion 6.5 | Universal Control v3.1.0.53214
Dell Inspiron 17 5770 (Intel Core i7-8550U 1.8 GHz, 4GB AMD Radeon 530 Graphics, 16GB RAM, Samsung 860 EVO 2TB SSD
StudioLive Series III 32 v2.1.16232
User avatar
by jpettit on Wed May 30, 2018 10:56 pm
Never seen something that dramatic.
Think about what you have done just before you see that.

My Website, Free Studio One Advance Training
SPECS:Win 10 64-bit, 12 Core i7: 32Gb DDR4 ram, 40" 4K monitor, StudioLive 24, Quantum, Faderport16, Central Station Plus, Sceptre 6,Temblor T10, Eris 4.5, HP60, Studio One Pro 4.0, Reaper 5.9, Sonar Platinum
User avatar
by mikemanthei on Wed May 30, 2018 11:46 pm
jpettit wroteNever seen something that dramatic.
Think about what you have done just before you see that.

Really? I'm surprised you haven't seen it before. I thought everybody saw that all the time.

I'm curious how you're *not* seeing the faders get resized to their minimum. It happens to me at least three or four times a week. And it's been happening ever since version 3 came out.

There doesn't seem to be any consistent action that triggers it. I will most often see the faders resized really small just after opening a song. So it appears to be saved in that state. But the actions taken just before saving don't appear to have any consistency.

I am running dual monitors at 1920 x 1080. If you can think of a test to run the next time I see this, I'll be happy to try it.
Last edited by mikemanthei on Thu May 31, 2018 10:29 am, edited 1 time in total.

Studio One v2, 3, and 4 Professional
Presonus 1818VSL / Focusrite 18i20
6-core Windows 10 64bit - 2.8 GHZ - 8GB RAM - SSDs
Tascam US-2400
StudioLive 32S
User avatar
by pawelhebda on Wed May 30, 2018 11:56 pm
Never seen it before. So it yours system/GPU realted.
User avatar
by jpettit on Thu May 31, 2018 12:20 am
Do you see this on one screen versus the other?
Where do your typically put your mixer?

My Website, Free Studio One Advance Training
SPECS:Win 10 64-bit, 12 Core i7: 32Gb DDR4 ram, 40" 4K monitor, StudioLive 24, Quantum, Faderport16, Central Station Plus, Sceptre 6,Temblor T10, Eris 4.5, HP60, Studio One Pro 4.0, Reaper 5.9, Sonar Platinum
User avatar
by mikemanthei on Thu May 31, 2018 1:45 am
pawelhebda wroteNever seen it before. So it yours system/GPU realted.

Sorry, but a video card is not responsible for randomly moving items around on a screen.

Studio One v2, 3, and 4 Professional
Presonus 1818VSL / Focusrite 18i20
6-core Windows 10 64bit - 2.8 GHZ - 8GB RAM - SSDs
Tascam US-2400
StudioLive 32S
User avatar
by mikemanthei on Thu May 31, 2018 1:49 am
jpettit wroteDo you see this on one screen versus the other?
Where do your typically put your mixer?

Yes I only see it on the monitor that has my console. The other screen has track Lanes, so it's rather impossible to see it happening over there..... as there are no faders on that monitor.

I'm not sure what you're getting at here but for the sake of clarity (and the possibility of someone else replicating it,)... my monitors are set up as the main Windows monitor is on the right, and the second monitor is on the left. When Studio one opens, it opens on the left monitor. Then when I open a song, the lanes are on the left, and the mixing console is on the right.

I didn't always have it exactly like this, but still saw the problem even when I had the mixer on the left, and the Lanes on the right.

I hope this helps

Studio One v2, 3, and 4 Professional
Presonus 1818VSL / Focusrite 18i20
6-core Windows 10 64bit - 2.8 GHZ - 8GB RAM - SSDs
Tascam US-2400
StudioLive 32S
User avatar
by jpettit on Thu May 31, 2018 8:12 am
So
As part of your steps to reproduce you can say.

Issue:
After restarting or rebooting? My console window resizes the area for inserts vs the area for faders.

Steps to reproduce:
1) the console is in detached mode.
2) the console is on my secondary monitor ( not the main where the app boots. )
3) I have it in tall + wide mode
4) it typically shows up after reloading a song.

Can anyone reproduce this?

My Website, Free Studio One Advance Training
SPECS:Win 10 64-bit, 12 Core i7: 32Gb DDR4 ram, 40" 4K monitor, StudioLive 24, Quantum, Faderport16, Central Station Plus, Sceptre 6,Temblor T10, Eris 4.5, HP60, Studio One Pro 4.0, Reaper 5.9, Sonar Platinum
User avatar
by mikemanthei on Thu May 31, 2018 10:33 am
Apparently, Robdp sees it alot. I seem to remember lots of people saw it.

Wasn't this one of the main irritations right after version 3 came out? It was nice to have resizable faders, but they would resize themselves. Most often becoming smaller than what we wanted.

I figured most people just stopped complaining because it never got fixed.... like a lot of other things :(

Studio One v2, 3, and 4 Professional
Presonus 1818VSL / Focusrite 18i20
6-core Windows 10 64bit - 2.8 GHZ - 8GB RAM - SSDs
Tascam US-2400
StudioLive 32S
User avatar
by jpettit on Thu May 31, 2018 10:41 am
viewtopic.php?p=174450#p174450
Take my post and run with it.

Enhance it with more details as needed but keep it to the steps to reproduce.

You have to wait for other people have to confirm those steps in order for us to classify it as an issue to the developers.

Thanks

My Website, Free Studio One Advance Training
SPECS:Win 10 64-bit, 12 Core i7: 32Gb DDR4 ram, 40" 4K monitor, StudioLive 24, Quantum, Faderport16, Central Station Plus, Sceptre 6,Temblor T10, Eris 4.5, HP60, Studio One Pro 4.0, Reaper 5.9, Sonar Platinum
User avatar
by PreAl on Thu May 31, 2018 11:14 am
If you are a Win7/8 user the first thing you need to do is confirm everything in Windows update is fully up to date (you ran windows update several times), also confirm latest display adapter driver (but note this if you are running Nvidia and Win7 viewtopic.php?f=151&t=30274).

Update your signature please with your specs.
Then steps to reproduce.

Studio One Pro 4, Faderport 1, Atom, Focusrite Saffire Pro 40, Maschine Studio, Octapad SPD-30, Roland A300, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit.
EVGA Geforce 1070 (Nvidia drivers). A bigly amount of other gear.
User avatar
by mikemanthei on Thu May 31, 2018 11:22 am
jpettit wrotehttps://forums.presonus.com/viewtopic.php?p=174450#p174450
Take my post and run with it.

Enhance it with more details as needed but keep it to the steps to reproduce.

You have to wait for other people have to confirm those steps in order for us to classify it as an issue to the developers.

Thanks

I just did a search for mixer resize and fader resize and found an interesting history on this issue. If you do the same search you will see that it's been there for a long time

Studio One v2, 3, and 4 Professional
Presonus 1818VSL / Focusrite 18i20
6-core Windows 10 64bit - 2.8 GHZ - 8GB RAM - SSDs
Tascam US-2400
StudioLive 32S
User avatar
by mikemanthei on Thu May 31, 2018 11:24 am
PreAl wroteIf you are a Win7/8 user the first thing you need to do is confirm everything in Windows update is fully up to date (you ran windows update several times), also confirm latest display adapter driver (but note this if you are running Nvidia and Win7 viewtopic.php?f=151&t=30274).

Update your signature please with your specs.
Then steps to reproduce.

What does this problem have to do with the VST scanner on version 4?

Studio One v2, 3, and 4 Professional
Presonus 1818VSL / Focusrite 18i20
6-core Windows 10 64bit - 2.8 GHZ - 8GB RAM - SSDs
Tascam US-2400
StudioLive 32S
User avatar
by PreAl on Thu May 31, 2018 11:38 am
mikemanthei wrote
PreAl wroteIf you are a Win7/8 user the first thing you need to do is confirm everything in Windows update is fully up to date (you ran windows update several times), also confirm latest display adapter driver (but note this if you are running Nvidia and Win7 viewtopic.php?f=151&t=30274).

Update your signature please with your specs.
Then steps to reproduce.

What does this problem have to do with the VST scanner on version 4?


Where did I write it is something to do with the VST scanner?
I asked confirmation of the latest drivers, however I pointed to the other issue as a courtesy (asking people to "note" it) as this is an issue with the latest nvidia drivers and Win7 people should know about if they update.

Studio One Pro 4, Faderport 1, Atom, Focusrite Saffire Pro 40, Maschine Studio, Octapad SPD-30, Roland A300, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit.
EVGA Geforce 1070 (Nvidia drivers). A bigly amount of other gear.
User avatar
by mikemanthei on Thu May 31, 2018 12:02 pm
You included a link to *version 4 stuck on VST scan*.

So while you didn't explicitly write it, you did link to it. Maybe you intended to link to something different?

Studio One v2, 3, and 4 Professional
Presonus 1818VSL / Focusrite 18i20
6-core Windows 10 64bit - 2.8 GHZ - 8GB RAM - SSDs
Tascam US-2400
StudioLive 32S
User avatar
by PreAl on Thu May 31, 2018 12:14 pm
mikemanthei wroteYou included a link to *version 4 stuck on VST scan*.

So while you didn't explicitly write it, you did link to it. Maybe you intended to link to something different?


I wrote

"(but note this if you are running Nvidia and Win7 viewtopic.php?f=151&t=30274)"

I basically wrote the same thing again in my last post explaining my motivations. I won't bother repeating myself a third time, read the post again if you have a problem, it's all quite clear.

Studio One Pro 4, Faderport 1, Atom, Focusrite Saffire Pro 40, Maschine Studio, Octapad SPD-30, Roland A300, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit.
EVGA Geforce 1070 (Nvidia drivers). A bigly amount of other gear.
User avatar
by mikemanthei on Thu May 31, 2018 12:20 pm
Have you clicked your own link to see where it takes you?

Back to the issue, I will reiterate that this is not a driver problem. In order for this bug to appear, something has to change a variable inside of Studio One. Then there were lots of other calculations that happen to modify the screen geometry of all these graphical elements so that they fit on the screen properly.

A video driver does not have that capability. It does not have the ability to reach inside of Studio One and change the value of a variable. I appreciate your willingness to help, but it should be a solution that actually has a possibility of working.

Studio One v2, 3, and 4 Professional
Presonus 1818VSL / Focusrite 18i20
6-core Windows 10 64bit - 2.8 GHZ - 8GB RAM - SSDs
Tascam US-2400
StudioLive 32S
User avatar
by niles on Thu May 31, 2018 12:43 pm
Do you have the Console manually stretched or maximize through the Maximize button.
If I maximize the Console with the Maximize button it responds differently then when stretching it manually. The latter works more reliable for me if I want to keep my fader heights.

OS: Windows 10 Pro | HW: P9X79 • i7 3930K • 16GB • HD6450 (WQHD) • RME AIO
User avatar
by Robdp on Thu May 31, 2018 12:49 pm
It's really random so I've never been trying to look for what causes it and it always comes out the blue.

I can be doing anything in the arrange to be honest and I will flick back to the mixer window and they've all shrunk.

As I said before, I've tried different templates, starting from scratch, an empty song and a new computer and I've had this happen. Its hard to narrow down something that doesn't seem to have a cause.... it's similar to when the Busses and channels used to move randomly on their own in the mixer.

Producer/writer
Mac Pro 5,1 - OSX 10.11.6 - Studio One v4 - Apogee Symphony - SSL Sigma - Cranesong Avocet - Faderport 1 - Console One

81 postsPage 1 of 5
1, 2, 3, 4, 5

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 8 guests