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brentrains
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This thread is both a question and a "Heads Up."

I have been planning on, forever, upgrading my EZDrummer to Superior Drummer 2.0, however Sweetwater is running a special on Addictive Drummer for $99. That is mighty attractive.

I just wanted to:

A. Let others know about the deal
B. See if anybody who uses one or both of these has an opinion of one over the other within the context of S1.

Thanks.

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I dont use Addictive Drums but i know they are highly regarded.
I use Superior Drummer 2.0 and i really really really recommend it!

Its great for Pop, Rock, Coutry, Funk (if you tune the kits), and more!

Its bleed settings ability is just great! you get endless routing possibliltys (allmost :wink!

Micing:

KICK: In, out, Sub
Snare: Top, Under, Compressed
Hats: basic micing
Toms. one mic per tom (lots of them)
OH: classic stereo Overhead micing.
Room close. A close room mic.
Room Mid: A room mic set moderetly far away.
Room Far: A Far room mic.
Bullet mic: Great for snare and kick to get som extra punch. highly compressed ultra responsiv.

You can send the bleeding anyware!

You get Gate, Comp, EQ, Filter and more (i cant remember) FX!

regards
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brentrains wrote:This thread is both a question and a "Heads Up."

I have been planning on, forever, upgrading my EZDrummer to Superior Drummer 2.0, however Sweetwater is running a special on Addictive Drummer for $99. That is mighty attractive.

I just wanted to:

A. Let others know about the deal
B. See if anybody who uses one or both of these has an opinion of one over the other within the context of S1.

Thanks.


I have AD. It is a very nice program, especially at the editing level. The "beats" are midi based which makes editing a breeze. I paid 249.00 for AD so the 99.00 is a great price. Maybe you could get both at that price and let us know the pros and cons of each program. I have never tried EZDrummer but probably should.
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I think I am going to take the leap for the $99 deal. i will likely end up with both anyway, but we are getting ready to put the house on the market and passing expenditures by Congress (ie wife) is going to be interesting.......

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I recommended Addictive Drums. EZ and Superior seem thinner sounding to me.

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brentrains wrote:I think I am going to take the leap for the $99 deal. i will likely end up with both anyway, but we are getting ready to put the house on the market and passing expenditures by Congress (ie wife) is going to be interesting.......



You may want to look at the StevenSlate DrumsEX also (79.00). Very nice in deed.
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tpittman wrote:
brentrains wrote:I think I am going to take the leap for the $99 deal. i will likely end up with both anyway, but we are getting ready to put the house on the market and passing expenditures by Congress (ie wife) is going to be interesting.......



You may want to look at the StevenSlate DrumsEX also (79.00). Very nice in deed.


Very true. I also have the SSD cheep setup. But for producing beats and having midi loops available for editing, Addictive Drums is better.

Also, in using both, I really don't like the crash cymbals all that much in SSD. They're almost over processed, IMHO.

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DuckieTheAnk wrote:I dont use Addictive Drums but i know they are highly regarded.
I use Superior Drummer 2.0 and i really really really recommend it!

Its great for Pop, Rock, Coutry, Funk (if you tune the kits), and more!

Its bleed settings ability is just great! you get endless routing possibliltys (allmost :wink!

Micing:

KICK: In, out, Sub
Snare: Top, Under, Compressed
Hats: basic micing
Toms. one mic per tom (lots of them)
OH: classic stereo Overhead micing.
Room close. A close room mic.
Room Mid: A room mic set moderetly far away.
Room Far: A Far room mic.
Bullet mic: Great for snare and kick to get som extra punch. highly compressed ultra responsiv.

You can send the bleeding anyware!

You get Gate, Comp, EQ, Filter and more (i cant remember) FX!

regards


Completely agree with Duckie. Superior Drummer can be used for most any genre. I use them for metal and the possibilities are limitless. The functionality of the mixer with the mic bleed is 2nd to none. Costly, yes, but a fantastic program.
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themuzic wrote:
tpittman wrote:
brentrains wrote:I think I am going to take the leap for the $99 deal. i will likely end up with both anyway, but we are getting ready to put the house on the market and passing expenditures by Congress (ie wife) is going to be interesting.......



You may want to look at the StevenSlate DrumsEX also (79.00). Very nice in deed.


Very true. I also have the SSD cheep setup. But for producing beats and having midi loops available for editing, Addictive Drums is better.

Also, in using both, I really don't like the crash cymbals all that much in SSD. They're almost over processed, IMHO.


Could not agree more. My set-up is this normally: For a live drummer ( in studio w/ midi with electronic drum set) I use SSDEX. For my own stuff I work normally use AD because it is so easy to get whatever you want or easy to change the "beats"
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themuzic wrote:I recommended Addictive Drums. EZ and Superior seem thinner sounding to me.


^^^^ -- I've been using this for three years with Pro Tools and Studio One. I've added the Retro, Jazz Sticks, and Jazz Brush Paks. I want to grab the new electronic drum kit pak and the Funk Pak as well. They also have a bunch of midi paks that have loops for other genres. The thing I really like is the cymbals. And if you connect an electronic drum kit you can make your own loops via MIDI if you're a drummer.

The only thing I wish they had were some Latin jazz beats so I could do some Jobim.

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Julia B wrote:
themuzic wrote:I recommended Addictive Drums. EZ and Superior seem thinner sounding to me.


^^^^ -- I've been using this for three years with Pro Tools and Studio One. I've added the Retro, Jazz Sticks, and Jazz Brush Paks. I want to grab the new electronic drum kit pak and the Funk Pak as well. They also have a bunch of midi paks that have loops for other genres. The thing I really like is the cymbals. And if you connect an electronic drum kit you can make your own loops via MIDI if you're a drummer.

The only thing I wish they had were some Latin jazz beats so I could do some Jobim.



I must be out of the loop What is Jobim?? Ok, make me feel silly
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Jobim as in Antonio Carlos Jobim. Brazilian composer/songwriter/pianist genre is jazz.
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Having bought both over the past few years, I have to say both are AWESOME! (Both have midi clips if needed).

I agree that Superior Drummer does sound thinner, but it has some great mix and match possibilities when you buy some of the EZX addons. I create separate shaker tracks, etc that way (uses such a small amount of memory instead of loading the whole kit when not needed.) I do think that the velocities in SD are more subtle and I LOVE the "humanize" feature!! (I wish AD had that!)

Having said that Addictive Drums is really fat and meaty and great for pop/rock styles especially IMHO. Pieces can be unloaded too. I usually mix and match both VSTi's as needed. I really hope XLN Audio tweak the GUI so they can release singles as well as full kits (ie: a tambourine, sticks, gong, etc)...so we can build our own kits as needed.

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i have superior 2. i upgraded from superior 1, so i have the s1 drum, percussion, and coctail kits available also. i prefer it by far over anything else i've tried, though i'd love the custom and vintage s2 expansion (not the ezx). that said, i don't use the included grooves or midi loops at all, and never have (i program my own...and don't even have ezd installed, though it's included). s2's effects are sonalksis, fwiw, and from what i understand, it's pretty much unrivalled if you're using an e-drum kit to trigger.

i did play with AD for a few weeks a while back, and really liked it. i just couldn't quite break down and buy it though. strangely, i wasn't interested in it for "real" drums. the reason i was serious considering it was to use it sort of like a drum machine. AD really let you turn a "real" kit into something quite different very easily, which i thought was very cool...i was going to buy it for use as a middle ground between microtonic's completely synthesized drums, and the very large, more in-depth, "real mic'd kit" of superior. iirc, the AD stock library wasn't too humongous, either, and it sounded good. between s1 and s2, it's around 15 dvd's or so!

both are highly regarded, and for my money, if i didn't already have s2, i'd certainly be eying up AD. i don't think you could go wrong with either.

k

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Bought it. Loaded it.....IT ROCKS!!!!

I will eventually add Superior Drummer 2 for the sake of options, but this should get through some great demos!!!
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